Value of bx 19tgd

[dolbero]

Hi all.
My dad has just been told by his doc that he shouldn't drive any more so asked me if i could find out how much he can get for his car if he sells it so thought this might be the best place to ask.
It is a venetian red BX 19TGD from 1990.It has done 76000 miles,been kept in a garage,is in good nick inside and out and has been regularly serviced.So if anyone can give me an idea of its value that would be great.
Unfortunately i haven't any pics at the moment.Thanks.

[Defender110]

Unfortunately BX's prices remain low with TGD's fetching up to £750ish for good ones which yours may be with that mileage. How many owners, genuine miles, any service history to prove mileage?

[dolbero]

Thanks for the reply.I'm pretty sure my dad bought it from new and i think he has got its full service history.

[Defender110]

That will add considerable value to it, a one owner car with FSH could quite easily fetch a couple of thousand. I would advertise it on the free to advertise classic car sites which are very popular and have a good selling success rate. You've got nothing to loose by asking £2500 - £3000 to see what response you get. You could also try e-bay but you will get a lot of time wasters asking silly questions and you may have to give several test drives.

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[dolbero]

Thats great thanks for your help.

[Kitch]

I think more than £1k would be a struggle for a TGD, however tidy it is.

[Dollywobbler]

I'm with Kitch on this one. I'd consider a grand a good result. Could fetch more in an Ebay auction perhaps, but I wouldn't bet money on it, and there are a LOT of timewasters on Ebay. Free classified sites are the best starting point.

[Defender110]

Come on Ian you know one owner with FSH cars command a massive premium in Classic Car circles even if not inside the BX fold.

[citsncycles]

There have been a couple of non turbo diesel estates sell for mo than that recently, and they didn't have the history.

And don't forget that there seem o be a couple of cars a year hat surprise us all by how much they fetch - this could be one of them.

[Dollywobbler]

Come on Ian you know one owner with FSH cars command a massive premium in Classic Car circles even if not inside the BX fold.

A massive premium usually also requires low mileage. This is a hard one to judge. It's low mileage by BX diesel estate terms I grant you, but it's not really low mileage. One advantage of Ebay is that this could be a good car to judge the market. I'd love to see pictures though. Maybe it has the potential to better a grand, but £2500-3000 seems way off. That said, no car has a fixed value - it's worth what someone will pay for it. The right back story and the right pictures can definitely get a good result.

[Paul296]

I can imagine a TGD fetching a couple of grand, but it would have to be mint - really mint - and probably have less than 20k on the clock. Graeme Braidwood struggled to make 3.5k recently on his gold GT - and that had 5k on the clock and was ostensibly a 'new' car. For top money a car needs to be cosmetically perfect because body/paintwork - in general - costs far more to put straight than mechanicals.

It would be nice to see some pictures of the car in question here, but if it's really tidy, rust free, one previous qwner and FSH it could fetch 12-13 hundred. A grand+ sounds nearer the mark to me though.

[rutter123]

I have a very clean/tidy 19TGD on a J plate in silver, 2 previous owner low miles @ 105k with lots of history back to 95/96, ideally needs 2 door bottoms repaired/painted to really make it a nice example, i will not be doing this work prior to sale as its a lot to shell out £220 to get them done with no real guarantee of seeing that money back, however it will be sold with a full year MOT and doing any required repairs for this, i will be putting it up @ £795 negotiable. As said above if yours is a genuine garaged 1 owner nice example with reasonably low miles, history and no rust then i would expect to see 4 figures, would really help if u could post up some pics and more details.

[Kitch]

I'm not sure I get this "one owner and FSH" thing anyway. What if the owner was one of those nightmare types, who thinks they're looking after the car, but in fact isn't? (not that I'm suggesting that's the case with this TGD, it's hypothetical) At least if you've had a mixture of owners you stand more hope of one of them being any good with it. On the flip side, you stand more chance of having a careless owner - but that's my point; there's a flip side.
FSH on a car over 20 years old? Pointless IMO. Good for newer cars with value to them trying to retain a warranty or something, but I'd rather see evidence of care on older cars (photos on forums, it being a well-known car etc). I think (personally speaking) you'd have be certified to spend £2.5k or more on a TGD. That's not to knock TGDs in anyway, I just think being realistic about it you'd stand more chance of proving there is a god to me

Totally agree though - classic classified sites are free, and if it's really pretty then why not?! Give it a go and see what happens. My advice is just don't expect to get much more than a bag of sand for it. I'll be the first to congratulate the chap if he does

[mat_fenwick]

FSH doesn't worry me either on something this old - if it's survived so far then it must have been looked after reasonably well so I'd only be bothered about recent history. But it seems to be a magic catchphrase! I can get the one owner thing if you get chance to form an opinion of the owner before buying, as then you can get an impression of how it's been treated through its whole life. And you'd [i}expect[/i] someone keeping a car for the long term to look after it better than someone running a car into the ground every 18 months. But no guarantees like you say.

Another vote for the £1k mark here, as it's a small market with the majority wanting either a TD or 16v. Best of luck with it!

[Paul296]

I'm not sure I get this "one owner and FSH" thing anyway. What if the owner was one of those nightmare types, who thinks they're looking after the car, but in fact isn't? (not that I'm suggesting that's the case with this TGD, it's hypothetical) At least if you've had a mixture of owners you stand more hope of one of them being any good with it. On the flip side, you stand more chance of having a careless owner - but that's my point; there's a flip side.
FSH on a car over 20 years old? Pointless IMO. Good for newer cars with value to them trying to retain a warranty or something, but I'd rather see evidence of care on older cars (photos on forums, it being a well-known car etc). I think (personally speaking) you'd have be certified to spend £2.5k or more on a TGD. That's not to knock TGDs in anyway, I just think being realistic about it you'd stand more chance of proving there is a god to me

Totally agree though - classic classified sites are free, and if it's really pretty then why not?! Give it a go and see what happens. My advice is just don't expect to get much more than a bag of sand for it. I'll be the first to congratulate the chap if he does

I agree, to most of us that have some experience of keeping older cars going, one previous owner and service history probably means diddly squat, but psychologically, for most prospective buyers it still counts for a lot - particularly if it's a car you're asking top money for. Sometimes I look at my incomplete service book with stamps missing and think, awww, it'd be so nice if it was all complete and stamped up (stroke, stroke) - I still know it makes f*** all difference in the real world though.

On a more theological note, would you like the ontological argument (with an attempt to resolve the Euthypro dilemma), the teleological argument, the cosmological argument (including its Kalam sophistication), the argument from fine tuning or the moral argument? Of course we would have to define our terms; how would we know what constituted a 'proof', and to what extent is the scientific method of empirical demonstration even a useful paradigm in this case? Last but by no means least what do we mean when we use the term 'God'?