£40 winter restoration

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by mark239 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:45 pm

BX Bandit wrote:You sure that's a £40 restoration?

Nice work though. How are the throttle bodies on the 16v?
The £40 refers to the price paid for the car, the restoration will be a lot more !

New liners have arrived, will update thread at weekend.

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by Defender110 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:57 pm

Those pistons are too sexy to hide in an engine! :P
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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by CGATCX25GTITURBO » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:37 pm

Defender110 wrote:Those pistons are too sexy to hide in an engine! :P
they live in here

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by MULLEY » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:23 pm

Will that engine fit in a Bx?
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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:54 pm

If you have a big enough Hammer anything will fit.
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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by Paul296 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:08 am

Tim Leech wrote:If you have a big enough Hammer anything will fit.
I suggested this for Marks valver once but I couldn't get him that interested; he said it'd make the interior smell of petrol and be very uncomfortable for passengers! :shock:

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by citsncycles » Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:20 pm

Might upset the handling a tad too!
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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by mark239 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:26 pm

Good bit done this weekend, new liners in, honed, new piston rings gapped, pistons back in, head back on

Yes, I'm using normal 8V liners!! I know of folks running them in boosted motors with no problems.

Here's the old liners
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New oil seals
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The stuff to go in

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New liner

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Gapping the rings

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Old liners pulled out, seats cleaned up so they'll actually seal

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Putting liners in

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All liners in
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Compressing rings to put pistons back in
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Big ends torqued up
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Clamps on
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Head cleaning up for reinstall
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All pistons back in
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Head gasket on, with copper spray (Not necessary but I like it)
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Head back on
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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by Kitch » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:06 pm

That takes me back to when I rebuilt my red 16v's engine back in 2005.

I hope nobody ever fits the cams with the head on the bench, then picks the head up, face down, and repeatedly puts it down again.

Annyoing tapping from freshly rebuilt engine? Slightly bent inlet valve? Complete muppet for 3 years anyone?

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by mark239 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:22 am

LOL that would be a silly mistake!

Almost like when I was putting my monster MR2 engine back together and realised I'd forgotten to lap the valves in (And the tolerances were wrong to shim out of it) and had to ruin a £300 headgasket!!

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by Kitch » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:19 pm

Ah I got away with lapping valves, or not doing it as the case was.

Saxo VTR with a VTS engine fitted. 12 bent valves due to snapped cambelt - buy 16 used valves on eBay from a 106 GTi (same car underneath) and fit 12 of them. I was very pressed for time. New seats? No. New guides? No. New seals? No. Lap the valves in? No.

How did it run? Best dyno pull was 134bhp (standard is 120bhp!) so not only is it running well, it's kicking out some power for some reason too!

Sometimes cutting corners is fine :lol:

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by mark239 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:41 pm

Is the 106 shim under bucket or hydraulic lifter?

3S engine in MR2 is stupid shim under bucket, and I'd new seats in to accomodate the bigger valves and the valve clearances were too far out

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by mark239 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:43 pm

Got less done this weekend than I wanted, as I was bloody sick.

Still got a few things sorted - wiring started, throttle bodles on, timing belt on

where i left it last week
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manifold on for throttle bodies
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had to take the die grinder to the engine mount to allow manifold to fit
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throttle bodies bolted on
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home made back plate for the air filter, secured with the trumpets
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the tbs fully assembled with linkages
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starting the wiring loom for the ECU
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before the pulleys and timing cover backplate went on
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starting to split looms to decipher the wiring, and work the new ECU into it.
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timing cover backplate on, pulleys and timing belt. no tension in the belt yet as waiting on getting a tension gauge for the belt tomorrow before I tighten the tensioners up.
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top view of tbs
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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by MULLEY » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:27 pm

How much extra horse power should the TB's produce?
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Remapped - It goes better
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - it does over 60mpg
1992 TZD Turbo - SORN - slowly getting there
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze is back on the road since 2008
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
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1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014

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Re: £40 winter restoration

Post by mark239 » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:14 pm

No idea, I'll be mapping it on the road only like I normally do so won't have an accurate figure, I'd guess 10 percent or so more?

I'll likely see biggest benefit from the engine rebuild with the new bores and rings.