Rust in Peace...

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Mothman » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:41 pm

A MK 2 bonnet will fit a Mk 1 as long as its a long nose one. You will only get a long nose Mk 2 from a BX 14.
i gather the only Mk 1s with short nosed varieties were the automatics. Tim will confirm this. My D reg Mk 1 has a short nose, being a diesel auto.
If your original bonnet is steel, i can see the only reason to change it would be because its badly corroded.

Andy

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Tim Leech » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:50 pm

Hi Stephen

The DTR does indeed have a (long nose) heavy original steel bonnet as most Mk1' diesels did. ALL bonnets are interchangeable be them short or long nosed, but you would need the small grille to go with a short nosed (I have a spare) so you dont have a gap if changing from a longer type.

All 1.4, 1.6, 1.9 carb and 1.7/1.9D hatches (except Meteor and TX models) had long nosed if they were manuals. All estates, automatic, turbo diesels (which had a special undefelt panel with intercooler ducting) and injection models had short nosed to aid with cooling.

You will of course need to have it painted to match. There will be some weight saving and no rust issues but I dont remember the DTR's bonnet being corroded except for some surface rust underneath.
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Mothman » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:57 pm

The DTR does indeed have a (long nose) heavy original steel bonnet as most Mk1' diesels did. ALL bonnets are interchangeable be them short or long nosed, but you would need the small grille to go with a short nosed (I have a spare) so you dont have a gap if changing from a longer type.

However, if you put a short nose on it it would not be right though and as it was such a magnificent restoration, why spoil it.

Andy

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Stephen C » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:20 pm

Thank you all for your contributions my knowledge has now been greatly enhance, one thing I must make absolutely clear there is nothing wrong with the bonnet that is on the car and I would never ever get rid of it, it will always stay with the car, this is all about myself wishing to have a plastic bonnet, and I agree the restoration of this beautiful old girl was outstanding, maybe mine enthusiasm has run away with me, but I can remember when the Citroen bx came out and everyone talking about the plastic bonnets, and I would never do anything too diminish this beautiful vehicle as will become apparent in time.

So please forgive an old man having a midlife crisis and wanting a plastic bonnet :lol: and again thank you for all of your time to explain things to me, it's really appreciated.

Stephen
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Tim Leech » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:00 pm

If you want a plastic bonnet you're welcome to the one of the GT once the replacements fitted....even if it's just to look at! :D
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
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1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Stephen C » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:02 pm

Tim Leech wrote:If you want a plastic bonnet you're welcome to the one of the GT once the replacements fitted....even if it's just to look at! :D
I Would be Tim, if it was good enough to have it professionally sprayed and could be fitted,

Stephen
MK1 1.9 DTR.............X6
2cv Van....................Napoleon

Honda FRV................Mr H
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Honda Lawn Mower

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1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Tim Leech » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:50 pm

It's a short nosed though .
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
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1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Stephen C » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:33 pm

Tim Leech wrote:It's a short nosed though .
Thanks for that Tim, I will look for a long nose one, going by what I have read that would be best,
I appreciate your help.

Stephen
MK1 1.9 DTR.............X6
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Leegt » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:12 pm

Are the ax gts available???

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Mothman » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:19 pm

Stephen C wrote:
Tim Leech wrote:It's a short nosed though .
Thanks for that Tim, I will look for a long nose one, going by what I have read that would be best,
I appreciate your help.

Stephen
Why do you want a plastic long nose when your metal one does zakly the same job and dosnt need respraying if you cant find one of the same colour? Surely it isnt that difficult to lift the bonnet? I find this very strange as surely you would want to keep the motor as original as possible? It wasnt made with a plastic jobbie so why change it? It wont go any faster[well, not noticeably] so why go to all that bother unless the original bonnet is rusted through. If it is, then go for another metal one.

Andy

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:23 am

Leegt wrote:Are the ax gts available???

Everythings for sale.
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR

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1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:14 pm

Were off to Alan's again on Tuesday morning to get an interior for the RD estate and a few small items.

Anyone else need anything?
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Mothman » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:24 pm

Yeah bud, the whole Mk 1!! Can u post it to me please.

Andy

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1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:53 pm

haha! I will enquire about it to see if its for sale.
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR

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Re: Rust in Peace...

Post by Leegt » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:39 pm

Would you mind asking a price for the gt's. Dont need to know exact location but where abouts are they ??? Thanks excitedly!! :)