Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

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Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by robfreeland » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:27 pm

Hi everyone, I'm new to the club and have a white 19trs estate with 103,000k miles on it. I bought it when I was 15, but have been unable to do any work on it up until now - I'm now 16 and have a free summer, so will be tackling a few jobs - I'll be asking for plenty of advice! :D The car had been off the road and dry (ish) stored for 8 years, despite this, we put some petrol in it, hooked up a battery and it started!! :o for the first time in 8 years! It is in remarkable condition - virtually no bodywork rust at all and only surface rust where the waxoyl had dropped off underneath. However, the hydraulic pipes to the rear suspension and brakes are corroded (which is the reason it was taken off the road) and need replacing (as the car doesn't lift at all :( ) which is the main job for this summer. It has a beige interior which is in good condition - there is wear to the driver's seat, but that's about it (except the glove box had fallen off!). I'm looking for a new set of wheel trims as the originals are cracked and missing large bits of plastic, so if anyone has a set I would be interested - alloys or any type of trim. Well, I think that's about it - its an honest car that just needs a bit of tlc to get it back on the road - and plenty of advice from the BXclub! :lol:
It was interesting getting a completely low bx onto the trailer! :?
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Tim Leech » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:32 pm

Welcome! Those beige interiors are proper rare now!
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by citsncycles » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:40 pm

Welcome. That's a nice car, and the 2nd 19TRS estate to have surfaced this year - coincidentally with the same hydraulic issues too.

After working on that one, I'd recommend jacking the whole car up and replacing the pipes one at a time - I tried doing it one end at a time and managed to get a couple of pipes swapped over.

There's a wealth of info here, so you should find answers to your questions. You'll also get the wheeltrim police along shortly to tell you it has the wrong ones on! :lol:
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by robfreeland » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:54 pm

Really?! What wheeltrims should it have? It was like that when I bought it. Any ideas where I can get some originals? (or similar). I think I'll do the same - just replace each pipe as I go.
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Tim Leech » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:44 pm

They are the wrong ones but as he's a newbie! I do happen to have the correct type but am missing a few carriers.
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Stinkwheel » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:59 am

Welcome Rob,

Thats a fine looking BX you have there and its good to see a young 'un taking proper interest in BX's :D
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Post by Thread Bear » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:35 am

Indeed it is good to have some younger folk getting stuck in. We might be OK when our backs have gone in 15 years time to get a few wee jobs done. Might need more persuasion than a Wurthers Original (stale Murry Mints?) though. More like ~ale~ .

Nah. Wheel trims. I was going to wait till I went to a meeting to get genned up on that. I think the 1.6 has correct trims, a set. Out of everything else I have two original trims, the give away being BX have four studs and the wheel trims sets I have exhibit five holes :shock: Bet the police will not let me have the ones I like best. [-X

Does look a very good basis for a tidy car. Well got and stashed. Having stash room really does give the bargain hunter the advantage over those with no space.
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by rutter123 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:14 am

your hydraulic system will need a thorough inspection after standing for some time, yes the front to rear pipes are prob shot, but not too much trouble to change, i would also inspect all the return pipes as well as the front flexi brake lines, all pipes and fittings are available from plieades (check spelling) martin is a wealth of experience of bx plumbing and can supply whichever pipes u need made up to fit and also has time to chat about any hydraulic issues, they can also supply recon pumps and most other hyd parts, plenty of knowledge on here, be warned the hydraulic system runs at very high pressure and every caution should be taken when maintaining it, seek advice first if unsure. good luck with your bx'ing.
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Dollywobbler » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:16 am

Great stuff. Welcome!

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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Tim Leech » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:44 am

Front to rear pipes are available new from Citroen (I bought one this year) and should outlast the car, they arent that easy to change unless you can get it on a four post ramp so do one at a time and dont forget new seals

Its good to see younger members coming on board or one day it will be all us lot sporting beards and bald patches!

Once you have it hyadraulically "tight" first thing to do will be to change the belts and fluids.
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by robfreeland » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:43 am

rutter123 wrote:your hydraulic system will need a thorough inspection after standing for some time, yes the front to rear pipes are prob shot, but not too much trouble to change, i would also inspect all the return pipes as well as the front flexi brake lines, all pipes and fittings are available from plieades (check spelling) martin is a wealth of experience of bx plumbing and can supply whichever pipes u need made up to fit and also has time to chat about any hydraulic issues, they can also supply recon pumps and most other hyd parts, plenty of knowledge on here, be warned the hydraulic system runs at very high pressure and every caution should be taken when maintaining it, seek advice first if unsure. good luck with your bx'ing.
Thanks for the advice - i've removed the fuel tank and rear exhaust sections as i get much better visibility and access, so just a case of switching old pipes with new - i was thinking of getting the pipes made from a guy off ebay, any experience? he's called "the citroen hydraulic pipe man". I won't have to worry about system pressure at the moment as it hasn't got any! The big rusted through holes in the pipes give that away!! :lol:
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Tim Leech » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:00 pm

Well sounds like he knows his stuff, if he makes them up make sure they are kunifer pipes so they wont rust again.

Good luck with the old Girl, sounds like she is in good hands!
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by Stinkwheel » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:41 pm

If you wanted to PM me the lengths of pipes you need im more than capable of making them up for probably slightly less than the bloke on e-bay.

Also in kunifer obviously, with new 3.5mm LHM seals also.
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by citsncycles » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:27 pm

Really?! What wheeltrims should it have? It was like that when I bought it. Any ideas where I can get some originals? (or similar).
If you do a search, there's a great pic of all the different wheels and trims and what models they fitted. The ones on there are TG spec, but if you want the right ones as well as what Tim has I may have a couple kicking round, including the retaining rings so between us we may be able to sort you out. If they're repairable you'll probably find a home for your trims too - most lose the covers over the valves like yours seem to have done (may be worth looking in the car for them, they seem to be worth more than the trim!)
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Re: Rob's BX-19 TRS estate 1988

Post by robfreeland » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:48 pm

citsncycles wrote:
Really?! What wheeltrims should it have? It was like that when I bought it. Any ideas where I can get some originals? (or similar).
The ones on there are TG spec, but if you want the right ones as well as what Tim has I may have a couple kicking round, including the retaining rings so between us we may be able to sort you out. If they're repairable you'll probably find a home for your trims too - most lose the covers over the valves like yours seem to have done (may be worth looking in the car for them, they seem to be worth more than the trim!)
Thanks, that would be great if you could source me some trims, just let me know of a price if you find some :) I'm afraid the ones on my car are gone repair - the rims have cracked off at some point and there are big gouges all over them - i tried repainting (even with some thick brush on paint! :roll: ) but they are too far gone, i was thinking of keeping them for the future just in case (you never know! :-s )
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