The Aubergine

Tell us about life with your BX, or indeed life in general!
User avatar
saintjamesy89
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1815
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 8:01 pm
Location: Cider country
My Cars: 1985 Citroen BX19 GT
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by saintjamesy89 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:01 pm

Hang on in there Andrew, it's a lovely car (and awesome colour too) and you've put so much effort into it!

From what I have read, fitting a 2.1 is a hell of a job, it seems you have to hack the body about to make it fit, would be great fun in a BX though. I guess it all hinges on the verdict of the garage, i'm all for better the devil you know, but it would be fun, if not cheap, to change the engine for something a little bigger/more powerful. People in the past have lauded the conversion of one fuel to another as not worth the hassle IIRC. Im sure someone will be along to say with more certainty.
I'm not a Saint, or a James, but a Tom Saint-James!

Mon voitures:
1985 Citroen BX 1.9 GT
1999 Rover 820 Si Fastback

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:39 pm

Cheers Tom, the car is safe, first and foremost she'll ride again in some form, what form that will be will depend on what happens next week.

Like you, I'm of the mind of devil you know over the unknown and getting another BX that I love as much as mine would be tough, sure its got tatty paint and needs a growing list of welding and a new windscreen and work done round the a pillars and the sunroof is buggered but this is my first BX and Ive always said it's a forever car and I do intend to keep it that way.

But truth be told, if I had to step out of the BX world I'd find a nice mk1 AX GT or import an AX Sport from France if I could. I'm hoping things don't come to that though!

Over-all I'm just feeling a bit defeated at the moment with the car constantly throwing curve balls at me and time/pay checks running out to get things booked for the 2017 challenge, I'll have to see about either joining up half way through or skipping it all together if I can't make it for the start of the event in June. Again, thats still a few months away so we'll see what happens between now and then.
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
saintjamesy89
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1815
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 8:01 pm
Location: Cider country
My Cars: 1985 Citroen BX19 GT
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by saintjamesy89 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:33 am

OK, fingers crossed then for next week and that you can join us for the start!
I'm not a Saint, or a James, but a Tom Saint-James!

Mon voitures:
1985 Citroen BX 1.9 GT
1999 Rover 820 Si Fastback

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15061
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S ERC742T
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C TAL91S
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
1998 Rover 75 V6 Connoisseur Auto S392DEH
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav R40TSL
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 45

Re: The Aubergine

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:35 pm

Hi Andrew

Bad luck mate but she's done plenty of miles, I would avoid fitting anything other than a 1.7/1.9XUDT as its a faff plus it would be classed as a modified car and you have all the fun of the DVLA numpties to deal with, however if its just a head-gasket then I would go that way first, if the originals lasted this long then......

I think a good used 1.9 engine would be worth while, plenty of them around too.
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
1998 Rover 75 2.0V6 Connoisseur Auto
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:37 pm

Thanks Tim.

She has done her fair share of miles i'll give her that! Will need to see what if any damage (I'm assuming it has done some) was done driving 3 or 4 miles with both coolant temp lights on.

I think at this point it might be just a case of head off and see if the gasket has failed or if the heads cracked or warped. Something just isn't right with it at the moment.

Engine swap wise I'd probably stay XUD for the ease of not having to change the fuel set up. If it ends up being cheaper to change the engine then it will depend on whats available as to what goes in. All I know is that I want to keep the turbo haha but with the head off it might be worth seeing what condition thats in as well.

Anyway, when I hear some news I'll keep you guys updated.
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:19 pm

No news on the fate of my car yet, maybe tomorrow or Thursday, half of me wants to know and half of me is dreading it.

Couldn't help but look for part and came across a 1.7 TD engine for not a lot of money, only trouble its an absolute mission away and brings back the devil you don't know aspect. But I've asked the seller if he knows what the mileage is just out of interest.
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
mat_fenwick
Moderator
Posts: 7265
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:08 pm
Location: North Wales
x 13

Re: The Aubergine

Post by mat_fenwick » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:09 pm

Where is the engine out of interest? Might be someone local to it who could help it find its way to you...
Image

1993 1.9 TZD Turbo Estate
2006 Renault Kangoo
1996 3.9 V8 Discovery
1993 VW LT35 campervan
1985 Hyundai Stellar V8
2004 MINI Cooper (hers)

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:21 pm

Its down Taunton way, between Bristol and Exeter so would be a 6/7 hour round trip there and back if I wanted it.

At the moment I'm not sure if I'll need it either, fingers crossed I don't, but there may come a point when swap is cheaper than fix, and while the engine is out for a swap then new engine mounts, new clutch, acc sphere could do with being done and patch work to the inner wings and what not could also be done/looked at better.

Like I've said, I've asked for mileage just out off interest.

Heres the listing and to me a £250 engine (thats also open to offers on - can't imagine there is a huge demand for XUD7TE engines these days) that would drop straight in doesn't sound too bad, but then again, devil unknown so...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-BX-Tu ... SwezVWwui9
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
saintjamesy89
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1815
Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 8:01 pm
Location: Cider country
My Cars: 1985 Citroen BX19 GT
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by saintjamesy89 » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:15 pm

It might interest you to know that I sometimes work in Taunton, and live 25 miles away Andrew. Not sure if that is of any help, but perhaps something could be worked out. I will want to be putting some miles down in the GT before the challenge.
I'm not a Saint, or a James, but a Tom Saint-James!

Mon voitures:
1985 Citroen BX 1.9 GT
1999 Rover 820 Si Fastback

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:37 pm

Cheers for the very kind offer Tom, it's appreciated.

The engine on eBay has done 75/80k or so which is many miles fewer than my current one.

Ive had photos of mine with the head off now and they doesn't really mean a lot to me but it looks like 3 out of the 4 cylinder had issues between the cylinder and the cooling system, I'm guessing thats what the fingers are pointing at...

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image


From here I think the next step is to have the head skimmed and pressure tested to see if its cracked, after that, I think it all gets put back together and hope that the heads not porous and I'm treating the old gal to some new glow plugs while access to them is easy.
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
Jaba
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1349
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:54 am
Location: Usually in the garage
x 10

Re: The Aubergine

Post by Jaba » Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:07 am

That does not look too bad really as long as the head is solid just a skim and cleanup of the block will fix it.
Every BX I have ever had has had a HG failure at some point. But fortunately I can fix them myself.
Reasons to be cheerful.
The Joy of BX with just one Citroën to my name now. Will I sing Bye Bye to my GTI or will it be Till death us do part.

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15061
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S ERC742T
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C TAL91S
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
1998 Rover 75 V6 Connoisseur Auto S392DEH
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav R40TSL
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 45

Re: The Aubergine

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:34 am

As John says it doesn't look to bad, a head skin and clean up should hopefully do the trick. I would be not wanting to fit a used unknown unit unless yours was no good.

J119 had the exact same issue two years ago at 193000 miles, Barry sorted the head gasket and it's been fine since.
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
1998 Rover 75 2.0V6 Connoisseur Auto
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:29 pm

Cheers guys, hopefully its not as bad as Ive been dreading, but on the whole I'm just miffed that the cars acted up in the last two weeks meaning she'll miss the X-rally tomorrow, so to make up for it I washed my mums TGD for her as she was away for a few days up north in the Xantia.
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:39 pm

Update: SHE'S ALIVE.....

Image

Rob at Chevronics sent me this today, and a happy chap it made me haha :D :D :D

I know she isn't out the of woods yet, but this is a big step in the right direction and it's given me something to smile about as well :D
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image

User avatar
TizzyD
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 509
Joined: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:36 pm
Location: Bedfordshire
x 8

Re: The Aubergine

Post by TizzyD » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:42 pm

Right, where to start. Ive had the car back with me for 2 to 3 weeks now after having had the head skimmed and the whole coolant system is running on new pipes. Ive only taken her on short trips at the moment and just making sure everything is running as it should and slowly restoring my trust in the old gal.

So other than that I've done a few minor jobs that just needed doing.

The positive terminal clamp on the loom had ripped and was millimetres from failing completely so I change the clamps on both positive and negative to some quite smart looking Amazon jobbies that only cost a tenner. They come in gold as well but I though that was a bit too bling for the engine bay of a BX. :wink:

Image

Image

Image

Nice thing with these that should I wish to wire in an amp for the stereo (which is something I'm looking into) it will be nice and easy and won't look untidy

The other thing I've been doing is collecting parts together to fit a GTi 8v / 16v dash to my car.

Image

Ive got a new Rad fan switch to go in while I'm changing the 'Red Light Of Doom' sensor to a coolant temp sender and will swap the wires round so the Orange sensor brings on the Red light on the dash and the Orange wire will drive the temp gauge on the cluster.

Only bits I'm waiting for is an M10x1 Oil pressure switch that will fit my T-piece so I can keep my low oil pressure light and a M16x1.5 adapter so I can use the existing oil pressure switch port on the front of the block.

One thing that has confused me a bit though, my original oil level/ low pressure gauge has never moved more than a few millimetres when you start the car. It flicks up a bit off the resting position but not all the way to max. Am I right in thinking that this is a two stage unit but where is the oil level sensor ? Ive changed the oil pressure switch in the past and it made no different to the operation of the gauge.
'02 Clio Dynamique 1.2 16v - 92K - Sold
'09 Yamaha YBR 125 - 1100 miles
'93 Bx 17 TZD Turbo - 240K - The Aubergine

Image