Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Tell us about life with your BX, or indeed life in general!
User avatar
docchevron
The Immoderate half of the admin team
Posts: 7524
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 7:03 pm
Location: A Bucket of Fish
x 7

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by docchevron » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:46 am

if it's corroded along it's entire bottom length, which it probably is, you'll never get to it all without taking the wing off.
That said, if you cut the inner wing out you can get to most of it from the boot / underneath.
Cit's use of foam mastic to bond the outerwing to the inner wing along there was a dismal idea.
Smokes lots, because enough's enough already!

Far too many BX's, a bus, an ambulance a few trucks, not enough time and never enough cash...

User avatar
mat_fenwick
Moderator
Posts: 7271
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:08 pm
Location: North Wales
x 13

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by mat_fenwick » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:27 am

Mine went there too :(

Image

Image
Image

1993 1.9 TZD Turbo Estate
2006 Renault Kangoo
1996 3.9 V8 Discovery
1993 VW LT35 campervan
1985 Hyundai Stellar V8
2004 MINI Cooper (hers)

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Kitch » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:54 pm

It got worse....again. Spotted some loose chunks of underseal on the rear chassis legs:

Image
Image
Image

Rear subframe off to have a better look:

Image
Image

Fuel tank out to have a better look still:

Image
Image
Image
Image

It's all gone a bit wrong, really :( It's also fair to say if all this had been spotted on day one, the car probably wouldn't have been repaired.
Annoyed that I didn't spot that, along with the crust in the rear arch. Going to be a right fiddle to put that right too - not quite sure how to attack it as the rails have gone, along with one of the subframe mounts which is inside a box section, so I'm going to have to creative!

Good job it didn't get voted in for the NEC :lol:

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15096
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S TSL 982
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirt S TAL 91S
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 50

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:21 am

Find me any old car that has less rust then you originally thought when you start delving deep....at least this way it lives to fight another day.
Last edited by Tim Leech on Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:19 am, edited 1 time in total.
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR
1963 VW BEETLE 1200

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Kitch » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:26 am

Tim Leech wrote:Fine me any old car that has less rust then you originally thought when you start delving deep....at least this way it lives to fight another day.
Very true Tim, though there are certain levels of what's doable and what's not.

I've inadvertantly saved it, because if I'd seen all I don't think we'd have gone ahead with it. Now we've come too far to go back!

Defender110
Over 2k
Posts: 5886
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:02 pm
Location: Harwood, Bolton
My Cars: Citroen BX MK1 Break.
Land Rover Discovery Series 1 200tdi 3 door
Land Rover Discovery Series 2 Facelift TD5
BMW X1
x 21

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Defender110 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:26 pm

Kitch wrote:It got worse....again. Spotted some loose chunks of underseal on the rear chassis legs:

It's all gone a bit wrong, really :( It's also fair to say if all this had been spotted on day one, the car probably wouldn't have been repaired.
:

I feel for you and have to agree; I wouldn't of bothered repairing one this bad. Question is now do you carry on?, I don't think anyone would blame you if you decided to call it a day.
Kevan
1987 Citroen BX MK1 diesel estate.(Currently in dry storage)
1997 Mercedes C230 W202 - daily driver.
2010 BMW X1 SE 2.0D Auto - Her indoors daily driver.
2003 Land Rover Discovery Series 2 Facelift TD5 - Daily driver / hobby days and camping.
1993 Land Rover Discovery 200tdi Series 1 3 door - in need of TLC

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Kitch » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Defender110 wrote:
Kitch wrote:It got worse....again. Spotted some loose chunks of underseal on the rear chassis legs:

It's all gone a bit wrong, really :( It's also fair to say if all this had been spotted on day one, the car probably wouldn't have been repaired.
:

I feel for you and have to agree; I wouldn't of bothered repairing one this bad. Question is now do you carry on?, I don't think anyone would blame you if you decided to call it a day.
Oh I'll fix it. I've got to, we've sunk too much time and money not to. Plus they're pretty rare! :lol:

But if I'd seen it at the beginning along with the windscreen pillar rot etc......I'd have thought twice.

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15096
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S TSL 982
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirt S TAL 91S
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 50

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:47 pm

If I had known the DTR was as rough as it was I wouldnt have bothered but if I hadnt done it who else would? same with your GT Kitch, to some its just a rusty old french car but to those more informed we know more.

It will be worth it when its all done and you have a car to admire and you can think to yourself "I did that".

Keep the faith.
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR
1963 VW BEETLE 1200

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Kitch » Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:59 pm

Tim Leech wrote:If I had known the DTR was as rough as it was I wouldnt have bothered but if I hadnt done it who else would? same with your GT Kitch, to some its just a rusty old french car but to those more informed we know more.

It will be worth it when its all done and you have a car to admire and you can think to yourself "I did that".

Keep the faith.
Well, my Dad will :lol:

Wasn't your DTR just paintwork though? Truth be told I can't remember what you did to it!

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15096
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S TSL 982
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirt S TAL 91S
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 50

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:02 pm

Kitch wrote:
Tim Leech wrote:If I had known the DTR was as rough as it was I wouldnt have bothered but if I hadnt done it who else would? same with your GT Kitch, to some its just a rusty old french car but to those more informed we know more.

It will be worth it when its all done and you have a car to admire and you can think to yourself "I did that".

Keep the faith.
Well, my Dad will :lol:

Wasn't your DTR just paintwork though? Truth be told I can't remember what you did to it!

Well yes, but it had 4 new doors, which I fitted myself and swopped over all the internals, a new rear 1/4 panel, 2 front wings, lots of oily bits and a complete interior strip out and refit, it had a bit of welding to the boot floor and subframe which I had to pay to get done aswell as a repaint.

I comfortably did over 1000 miles collectin parts and stopped counting at £3000....
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR
1963 VW BEETLE 1200

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6192
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Kitch » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:23 pm

Bloody hell, didn't realise it had that much! Ah well, doing up BXs is never going to make you money! :lol:

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15096
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S TSL 982
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirt S TAL 91S
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 50

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Tim Leech » Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:15 pm

Kitch wrote:Bloody hell, didn't realise it had that much! Ah well, doing up BXs is never going to make you money! :lol:

It had loads and loads of time spend on it, I took the carpets and steam cleaned them before going through the washer (twice).....

I lost well over £1000 on it, but got alot of satisfaction doing it and surprised myself with the amount of work I could do myself. I do hope the new owner looks after it aswell....
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR
1963 VW BEETLE 1200

User avatar
BX Bandit
Backslash Bandit
Posts: 2583
Joined: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:46 am
Location: Closet boozing...normally under bonnet
x 1

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by BX Bandit » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:55 am

Tim, was that a professional or works cleaner? And what do you mean by going through the washer? I have a vax carpet cleaner with the small attachment jobby, would be good for seats and carpets I think, though not as good as a pro job obviously.

Mk 1s are worth the effort I reckon, mk 2s possibly. I think if my scrapper was a mk 1 I'd try and save it, but it's pretty rotten in the rear chassis legs.
have some balls
1990 BX 16V Platinum Grey
1990 BX TZD (with A/C) Pink
1990 BX TGD White
2003 Audi A6 2.5 TDi
1960 Morris Minor Clarondon Grey
1971 Triumph 2000 Auto Valencia Blue

User avatar
Tim Leech
Over 2k
Posts: 15096
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:12 am
Location: Burton on Trent
My Cars: 1963 VW BEETLE 1200 KGJ413A
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL BFA720L
1979 Rover SD1 3.5 V8-S TSL 982
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2002 Rover 75 CDT Connossieur SE Nav Auto R40TSL
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirt S TAL 91S
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
x 50

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Tim Leech » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:39 am

I removed the carpets, took them into work, doused them in alloy wheel and upholstery cleaner then blasted the f*ck out of with a pressure washer, the colour difference was amazing as was the colour of the water, they came up like new.

Once dry I brought them home and run them through my washing machine to rinse off any chemicals and it also made them smell nice! Then a few weeks in the airing cupbaord had them good as new.

The front carpet has to be split into two (where it crosses the transmission tunnel) to get it out, plus it wouldnt have gone in the washer as one.
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2002 Rover 45 1.6i Spirit S Special
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR
1963 VW BEETLE 1200

User avatar
Des Smith
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:17 am
Location: Sydenham, London
x 2

Re: Operation wake up GT! (no one has 56k anymore, right?!)

Post by Des Smith » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:01 pm

Kitch wrote:It got worse....again.

Image

It's all gone a bit wrong, really... It's also fair to say if all this had been spotted on day one, the car probably wouldn't have been repaired.
That view looks strangely familiar...
Tim Leech wrote:Find me any old car that has less rust then you originally thought when you start delving deep.
..that_

Makes you do all of the following: ](*,) [-o< :-k but not necessarily in that order and not just once. Good luck, mate!
BX14TE St Tropez 1990 - now sold
Xsara Forte 1.4i 2000
Kawasaki GPz550A4 1987