1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

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1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:40 pm

I though't i'd start a blog about a car which i've owned for approx 8+years. 103+k on the clock, so low mileage these days :wink:

Where do i start, well, i already had an 8v Gti & fancied getting one of these legendary turbo diesels. Tim came across this one & i got in touch with him hoping he'd sell me the car, which he did :D That was the beginning & also pretty much the end, i ran this car for probably less than 6mths before taking it off the road.

So, about 8 years ago, I was changing the rubber gasket on top of the engine when i noticed some damage at the camshaft end. The cam bearing cap was damaged & so was the cam, the car was laid up with a view to getting it back on the road. Whilst this car was off the road, i bought the lovely white TXD which has itself now been scrapped, although loads of parts have helped David keep his unique 4x4 diesel alive.

Mr Fenwick did the rear arm bearings on my TZD approx 5+years ago, remember? & is the NAD still going strong?

Shaun changed the camshaft & bearing caps a couple of years ago & we got it started up & it seemed to run fine :)

In the last 3wks, Shaun has been visiting to help me get the blue beast back on the road, & now she is functioning enough to attemp to get an mot which i'll do v-soon. I've got the winter tyres fitted, so don't want to be without it this winter.

So, what have we done in the last few weeks, not necesserily in order (bearning in mind a lot of the engine parts had been removed over the years), so a lot of re-fitting was required:

Intercooler re-fitted (i'd cleaned it years ago, so it looks almost like new :) The intercooler ruber gasket was replaced, so should retain full pressure now.

Cambelt & water pump replaced, the tensioners were checked for rust & wear & tear, they were fine, so i've left them on.

A small rubber pipe next to the psgr side front subframe was split, so replaced that, no more leaky leaky.

The psgr side strut return pipes had broken, so a repair was made, so they should be fine for the mo, i'll probably replace it with a nice new one next summer.

Coolant drained & replaced, however, after today's short test drive, there appeared to be a blockage somewhere in the coolant system as a shit load of brown shit pissed itself out as it had started to pressurise. That lovely replacement coolant is no longer clear :( So a full clean of the system will be required, but what i'll do is run the car for a few miles (assuming mot pass) & i'll do a few water changes to try & get as much shit out of the system as possible. No idea where it's all come from, i don't have any memory of it being that crap 8 years ago.

Front wiper motor was stuck solid, so its all been free'd off & the washer hole has been cleaned out with a bit of drilling etc...seems to be working.

Rear wiper arm had to be bent in order for it to pass underneat the rear spoiler, i've fitted new wiper blades front & rear as you can imagine what 8 year old rubber with moss growing on it looked like :lol:

I cleaned the wiper arm spray tube, but i'll need to do it again as it kept getting blocked up, must be quite a bit of shit in the system.

The blower motor appeared dead, a bit of testing revealed that it wasn't getting any power, so Shaun rigged up a toggle switch so that i can have the fan (on at full speed) on or off, so at least the heating now works :)

Shaun also found the rubber bung which fits nr the wiper motor which always goes walkies, its the one that keeps the plastic sheild in place.

I changed the crappy headlight bulbs for some osram nightbreakers that were originally fitted to my old TXD.

One of the octopus pipes at the lhm tank end had split, so a repair was made with some good pipe, no more leaks there.

The car wouldn't start, so diagnosis was that no power was getting to the starter motor, it may possibly have an immobiliser fitted? As a temporary solution, Shaun fitted a cable which means that if i put the ignition on, i just have to touch the end of the wire onto the nearest battery terminal & the car will fire up. A better solution will be done in due course, but at least the car is thief proof :)

Fog lights didn't initally come on, so much pressing of the switch seems to have freed it up, so now they both work.

Likewise, the rear wash wipe appeared dead, just a dodgy switch as it did eventually work after repeated pressing in & out, probably need to get hold of another one as it does appear to be a bit sparodic.

The car didn't come with cambelt covers fitted??? so some replacement one's were fitted, which didn't come off a bx, so some jiggery pokery & taking out a bolt which it was supposed to slide over was removed, as these didn't have the fucking hole where it was supposed to be. I made a guess as to where to drill a hole, but i was way off, so the bolt came out & all is now well :)

A couple of driver side shit shield grommets were missing, so i've got those to re-fit.

Also noticed that one of the brake pad clips which stops them squeeling was missing, no idea what happened to it, shaun came up trumps with some spares, so i'll need to fit those.

There was a section of fuel pipe from the fuel filter to the diesel pump which had been bodged years ago, that had gone hard & was now leaking diesel, again a replacment section of pipe was fitted, so no more diesel leakage.

The front plastic section which holds the radiator in place was broken, so a replacement was found & fitted, now the radiator is secure & doesn't flap about like it used to.

K&N air filter fitted, clearly for performance reasons only :wink:

I've probably missed a few things off the above list, but the car seems to be running sweetly.

I took the car for a test drive round the estate in order to check out the brakes, they seemed initially not to be that strong, but did improve after a few stops, they will need a bit of fettling i suspect. The temperature gauge works :) its an aftermarket thing which is in its own pod, does look very spaceage & it appears to work a treat.

The car will need to be cleaned thoroughly in order to clean the windows of moss etc to stop the glass from being scratched etc...along with the bodywork to get rid of the greenery.

There are a few other things that will also need doing, but i'll detail these as & when i come across them.

There is some rust in various places, so here's hoping its not too bad :( & isn't in critical areas to stop an mot pass. All in all, its not looking too bad for a car which has stood outside all this time with very little starting over these years.
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by David » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:52 pm

Good luck with the car.

I have seen this car & its a beauty, Just make sure you get it under sealed so it doesn't rot like the TXD did.

The dirty water could have come out of the oil cooler, it can't run out when drained as both of the hoses are on the top.

The starter problem could be the wires under the battery.

Has the heater lost its live, or the neutral to the PCB that they all seem to lose? On the TXD, which lost the neutral to the PCB, I traced the wire back to the heater resistor, maybe its the same problem with this one? Its something to consider anyway.

Let us know if it passes the MOT.
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by bxzx16v » Mon Dec 01, 2014 6:27 am

Good luck with the work Mulley, what's the plan for the C5 once this baby is up and running? If you need any help with the cleaning up give us a shout, I got the wife a Tzd years ago which was a "bit" scruffy and it cleaned up nice.

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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by Thread Bear » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:14 am

Interesting. Todays task is to back flush my engine and rad. In this case this is because the car is a low miler, short hop history, car. A prime candidate for crude blocking up some of the cooling ways. It was why I chose not to drive it home down the M6/M5. Not fair without a bit of TLC. Running with low/no water additive does pull out more crap from the metals in corrosion, just as adding a strong mix to a long weak one will, as the chemicals find all the nooks and crannies it can loosening sediment. Can end in leaks or a pipe failure in extremis. Sure you know all this, but a ramble might save someone tears this time of year.

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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by Tim Leech » Mon Dec 01, 2014 5:28 pm

Christ! Is it 8 years?? Is this a keeper more than a Daily drive?
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:04 pm

I'll have to see what the condition is like underneath Tim, all my cars will be daily's tbh once they are up & running. This one has deteriorated over the years, so will need some rust removal that i've spotted so far, just depends if there is more rust hidden away.

Mark, i plan on keeping the C5 & will run it alongside the TZD, if i can get cheap classic car insurance.
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1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by mat_fenwick » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:02 am

MULLEY wrote:Mr Fenwick did the rear arm bearings on my TZD approx 5+years ago, remember? & is the NAD still going strong?

The car wouldn't start, so diagnosis was that no power was getting to the starter motor, it may possibly have an immobiliser fitted? As a temporary solution, Shaun fitted a cable which means that if i put the ignition on, i just have to touch the end of the wire onto the nearest battery terminal & the car will fire up. A better solution will be done in due course, but at least the car is thief proof :)
Sadly the NAD is often refusing to recognise CDs nowadays; that sadly it's rare that I actually sit down to listen to music! I remember the starting issue and did much the same thing when I was there. If there are no visible signs of an immobiliser being fitted then it'd be worth checking the ignition switch (two 4-way connectors under the dash by the steering column), and also checking the 7-way connector above the gearbox for corroded contacts.
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:52 pm

Have you tried cleaning the laser lens? or has the belt stretched & so the laser can't track properly? Shame, as it did sound quite good. Cheers for the tip on the connectors.
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1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
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1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014

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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by mat_fenwick » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:31 pm

Tried cleaning but no more.
I wrote:that said it's rare that I actually sit down to listen to music!
...is what I meant to write, so it's not really a big deal otherwise I'd have probably investigated further.
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:51 pm

Front wiper wash is no longer working, just what you need with the current weather. Hopefully just blocked, the rear works fine, so fingers crossed the weather tomorrow is ok & i can have a poke about.
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Remapped - It goes better
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - it does over 60mpg
1992 TZD Turbo - SORN - slowly getting there
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze is back on the road since 2008
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014

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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:41 pm

Fitted the driver side windscreen bottle after having cleaned the inside of it out, very filthy with all sorts of black gunge in it :( Tried starting the car, but the battery was down on power, so clearly a power drain somewhere :( Tried opening the fuel filler cap, seemed reluctant to budge, so sprayed some plusgas on the inside of the flap & it eventually turned. The metal outer ring is totally rusted to shit. Can replacements rings be found? or does anyone have a good 2nd hand one spare available for beer tokens?
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Remapped - It goes better
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - it does over 60mpg
1992 TZD Turbo - SORN - slowly getting there
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze is back on the road since 2008
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014

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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by mat_fenwick » Sat Dec 13, 2014 11:14 pm

Chevronics had some re-manufactured, don't know how much though.
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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Sun Dec 14, 2014 12:59 am

I've seen their prices, can the ring just be purchased, or do you have to buy the whole unit which includes the tube?

Also forgot to mention, the damn alternator light has started to come on, it was fine before, i guess i'll have to check the contacts havent gone crusty.
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Remapped - It goes better
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - it does over 60mpg
1992 TZD Turbo - SORN - slowly getting there
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze is back on the road since 2008
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014

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Post by mds141 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:57 am

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Re: 1992 TZD Turbo Hatchback

Post by MULLEY » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:39 pm

Exactly, those prices tbh are just waaay to steep for what it actually is, i'll get in touch with Shaun who i'm sure will be able to source one for peanuts. If it was a tenner, i may have been tempted, but at that price, no fucking way.
2002 C5 2.0 HDI Estate - Remapped - It goes better
2011 Mini Cooper D Clubman - it does over 60mpg
1992 TZD Turbo - SORN - slowly getting there
1991 Gti 16V - Blaze is back on the road since 2008
1990 Gti 8Valve SOLD - looks like it's been scrapped
2002 Mini Cooper S - SOLD - i miss this car
1992 TXD - Scrapped in March 2014

I'm not just a username, i'm also called Matthew.