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Here we go, first problem :roll:

My Activa got a bit hot under the collar this evening in heavy traffic. On stopping to investigate, the fans had not cut in. Neither did they cut in when I switched on the A/C although the A/C started up normally :?

I poked one of the fans with my torch and they burst into life and have been fine ever since.

Diagnosis is one of the fan motors either has a dirty commutator or worn brushes, causing them not to run when wired in series for low speed running.

Is it possible to overhaul a motor and replace the brushes or is replacement the only answer?

To put it another way, knowing how tricky they are to get at, would replacement be the wiser course rather than try a repair?
Jim

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Post by Dickieg »

Hi Jim,

I've replied to your earlier email, in addition in case it's not the fans but the wiring, the following link will help http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/ws ... fanop1.htm
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Dickieg wrote:Hi Jim,

I've replied to your earlier email, in addition in case it's not the fans but the wiring, the following link will help http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/ws ... fanop1.htm
Hi Richard,

Many thanks :D That page is worth its weight in gold!
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I had a look today and it was not the fan motors :D

It was the Left Fan Relay as described in Richard's link above although in the Xantia it is in fact on the right-hand side :P

The realy had been very hot and had burned around pin 5 and heat damaged the realy socket. The change-over relay had really dirty connections.

A good clean-up and a replacement realy sourced from a very dead Transit van appears to have fixed it :D The damage on the relay socket will worry me for a bit so the fans will enjoy a daily test from now on until I'm secure in the knowledge they're reliable again.
Jim

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Edit: Oops ! :oops: Too late ! Sent before I saw the last post.

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Hi Clogzz :D

That is precisely what my socket looks like :cry:

Next time I'm at a scrap yard....
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Post by MULLEY »

Saw one of these beasts today, sailed past in me BX 8), ok he was only going 60 :lol:
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MULLEY wrote:Saw one of these beasts today, sailed past in me BX 8), ok he was only going 60 :lol:
His speedo most likely said he was doing 70 though :P

Xantia speedos are :twisted:
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citrojim wrote:
MULLEY wrote:Saw one of these beasts today, sailed past in me BX 8), ok he was only going 60 :lol:
His speedo most likely said he was doing 70 though :P

Xantia speedos are :twisted:
Can't say I've found that, my Activa and TD speedo's are only 1-2 mph fast @ 70 according to sat nav. I'll have to check the MK 2's, to see if they are less accurate.
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Dickieg wrote:Can't say I've found that, my Activa and TD speedo's are only 1-2 mph fast @ 70 according to sat nav. I'll have to check the MK 2's, to see if they are less accurate.
According to my sat nav Richard, my Activa (MK2) speedo is 6 mph fast at 30, 50 and 70mph :shock: Strangely, this is almost the same optimism as seen on those portable "smily" speed indicators that Thames Valley Police place in the villages hereabouts. I always thought my speedo was bang-on because it agreed with the "smilies" so closely and it was only when I got a sat nav I found out the truth.

My TD, MK1 and cable driven speedo, is practically bang-on, as are both my 205 speedos.

Apparantly it is not unusual for MK2 speedos to be a little on the optimistic side. I'm wondering if there is a pot within that might be given a twiddle to make it read correctly...
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Hmm, 6 mph would roughly equate to the jump that the speedo does as soon as the car moves off.
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Dickieg wrote:Hmm, 6 mph would roughly equate to the jump that the speedo does as soon as the car moves off.
Yes, absolutely. When first had my Activa I thought that was a fault and expected the speedo to fail in the not too distant!
Jim

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'16 Giant TCR Bike in Black/Lime Green - Fine weather only...
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