Bx choke problem

[kevlights]

BX TRS 1986 petrol manual 32-43 weber 16 auto choke
the wax cylinder mechinism auto choke should have a tin ? cover over it? according to the manual (1986 petrol 5 speed TRS BX16) mine is missing so im busy out in the wokshop making on that looks like the picture in the manual. will it make a difference to the cold start problems im having?
and tha low/ slow idle problem?
,just for the hell of it i have wound in the adjustment as far as it will go, at least it looks a lot closer to the hanes manual picture on page 4A.18 picture21.8a and 21.9
before it wasnt even any where near the roller or lever
is the the adjustment; of having the auto choke screw wound all the way in a good idea? or will i upset some other setting by doing this? thanks regards Kev have asked on the aussy site but hoping for more info thanks ,Kev

[kiwi]

Hey Kev I thought you had sold that car or did you pull out just before it closed?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 242230.htm

Be interested to hear if you get this sorted as cold start problems are something my TRS suffers from as well. Likes the warm starts and those warm summer days just hates these cold winter mornings.

[kevlights]

seems to be a common problem with the choke wax cylinder ;as it ages its failing to fully open ,or close the choke properly ;regardless of adjustment!!
the BX didnt meet reserve,ive spent too much, on it, to give away so its relisted hope it goes to someone who appreciates the time and energy expended ,its a good car listed on Trade Me in NZ. Citroen BX TRS 1986
Closes: Mon 3 Aug 9:22 am (#231242230)
I have my eye on a BX 16 valver and a CX and a a ZX which ever comes within budget and within transport home range ;also a small matter of space; and not too forget, Her that sits on couch and mutters "what do you want another sitroan for?"
My feeling is the question is rhetorical !!

[kiwi]

Good luck with the selling its a unique colour I must say.

As a thought have you considered replacing the Auto Choke with a manual conversion? This is something I am considering but some strange reason Kiwi mechanics or should say auto Technicians can not quite grasp the idea.

[Tim Leech]

Im going to have to get the 16TRS looked at sooner rather than later I think its becoming apparent its not running right, it seems to be that its choking itself too much and chucks a cloud of smoke out under hard acceleration

Anyone fancy rebuilding a solex carb?

[kevlights]

http://www.racetep.com/webjettune.html

found this about carb tuneing -the solex and weber both seem to have similar problems ,either starting to lean and running rich or the opposite;starting too rich and running lean ,mine emmits grey black smoke when cold /cool but is as good as gold when warm;
even when talked to nicely its been a barstard to keep on tune;dont tell it i said that
" come on little green car" , I encourage it at the lights and round abouts, when its threating to stall;
get some strange looks from the passenger,oblique side ways glance with raised eyebrow--,silent communiation which screams NUTTER .
however if they could see the fancy foot work while trying not to get impaled on the plastic fantastic 4x4 s bullbar ,the said passenger would be looking for alternative transport;
what do you call heel and toeing on the brake and accelerater at the same time, ,Ive been bunging it into neutral at intersections caressing the brake with the left foot while giving it a few revs ;
All the while reassuring my self that Citroens are an experiance to be enjoyed ; Ha ; then it goes bloody well on the open road and round the twisty bits,quiet ,smooth ,comfortable : different bloody hell im beginng to sound like i enjoy it ! via la difference <im off to buy another one!!! here is the carb link again hope its usefull cheers regards Kev
http://www.racetep.com/webjettune.html

[kiwi]

So Kev you sound like a Kiwi who knows how to drive using the old hell n toe

If I lived in a town my TRS would be driven the same way. Theres a certain knack to getting her started which I noted this morning my wife manged 3rd attempt Normally it involves from cold 6 pumps of the accelerator before ignition then slight pressure and maybe get a cough out of it. Once it is going just keep the foot slightly down and catch the stall before it happens. (the wife failed this in the 100ft down the drive ). The biggest pig is the last part of our drive which is basically a steep ramp to the road. You got no choice but to brake and yes probably stall.

The worse part is not being able to start again as now you sat on the main road with vehicles whizzing by at 70kph (actually higher) trying to get her going again. Then theres the pull away! Again easing it up to speed while that 4WD with Bull bars and a ski rack hurtles into the villlage right up your a#$@. I tend to let these nutters go as once she is up to temp and speed the first set of corners I am then breathing down their necks and waiting for the opportunity to blast pass them

ONe thing is for sure I wont be taking the TRS up to the ski area car parks! Just imagine trying to get out of one of them with a car that dont like the cold!

[kevlights]

some old codger at the car club must of been observing my starting antics,
same as yours !! start move away stall ,swear,get it going to down end of drive way;stall again, ditto ,move over to intersection, stall nearly but not quite ,bog down--- burrp burrr and zooom away, in a cloud of exhaust fumes, all the while trying to avoid eye contact with the driver of the vehicle behind ,who is impaitienly waiting to ram me up the bum; anyway old
codger mutters "open the bloody bonnet" muttery mumble chewing of bottom lip and more muttering, produces a medium square shanked wooden handle screw-driver and yells at top of his voice for all to hear;
'Who the f***ks been rooting this" then he proceeds to adjust the idle /choke, and slams the bonnet down, glares at me and mutter mumble grumble buggers off into the beer tent;
apparantly did his apprentiship "on those bloody things hate them bloody mongrels of things" good Mechanic ! grumpy old man, thanks again owe you a few more cool ones ... he reckons the gasket on the top of the carb needs to be replaced as its part of the float adjust ??system

[Turboalternator]

Hallo Kev,

Have you sorted out your choke problem and are you still interested in input?

I have a 19TRS and I can say that I've had a nightmare with my Weber carburettor too. However, on the way I have learnt a lot!

In adjusting a Weber carb there is a lot that needs to be checked. I'd have to explain and to write it all down in a post and so I don't want to write it all for nothing. So unless you are still interested I won't do it!

It would appear that very few of us still have petrol BX's.


Regards,

[kevlights]

yes please any info is greatly appreciated ,have PM ,to you regards Kev;my BX has decided that it doesnt like very cold starts,
so ive bought a red ZX Volcane turbo diesel 1995 with klms on it from TM 299,000 klms $1000 and change;,pick it up this weekend;that will teach the little green car to misbehave !!
will be using this as a work hack and as a base to experiment with bio fuels and waste -recycle diesel --oil.will start a message about that to night.
im actually thinking of keeping the BX as a weekend run about ,sunday car, type of thing ive, sort of got attached to it,now that ive got used to its quirks and idiosyncrasys i quite like it
having talked myself into keeping it any info on tuning the weber 32-43 carb;petrol manual 5 speed non air con 1986 BX .MK I will be very usefull;
thanks regards Kev

[Aerodynamica]

I'd be keen on reading it too.

Can the waxstat thing not be replaced - -are they extinct?

Mine starts very well but I feel the choke closes too early.

[MULLEY]

A bit off topic, but carbs were mentioned on here, so is the one below of any use to anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CARBURETTER-FOR-C ... 911.c0.m14