Creaking Noise rear suspension

[kiwi]

I have a creaking noise on the rear of the TRS. Noticeable when the suspension settles or you push it down but not apparent when driving.

There is no sign of the classic splayed wheels and looking at those wheels it does look like the bushes were done sometime in the past.

Only thing I can think of is wheel bearings dry? Would I be right or wrong? If the bearings need replacing could someone give an idea of the prices you have paid just for the parts.

[citronut]

i would still go for rear arm bearings,

if it were wheel bearings causeing this it will be very easy to check, just jack both rear wheels off the ground and spin/rotate them, if the wheel bearings are that bad that they were creaking you will find it straight away by this method,

arm bearings dont always show up by the wheel leanning, as sometimes as the bearing/s break up the rollers wedge them selfs inbetween the arm and pivot,

just because you think they have been done allready it dose not mean they were done properly,

if you do end up needing wheel bearings GSF used to list them
there part No.s are/were as follows

N41306 non ABS and price in there 06 catalouge 27.76 UK pounds

N41308 with ABS and price in there 06 catalouge 46.00 UK pounds

regards malcolm

[MULLEY]

A cheaper solution to see if it sorts it, is to check how tight the main bolt is that goes through the rear arm, tighten it up if it will allow. Also check the antirollbar bolts, they may be loose which may infact be causing the creaking sound, rather than the rear arms. If you do those 2 1st, then if that doesnt cure it, then it'll be as per malcolms suggestions above.

[gordy]

Always the rear arm bearings, is it, or is there another answer.
Yes.
Its like the start of same that happened to my BX TGD of 1991 vintage and the car is still on boards 2ft of the ground out my back.
But now the car jerks up to ride height and is solid.
But hear this the height above this it bounces ok. Ahhh.
Height corrector is as new.
Arm bearings as new.
Only done 60,000 miles.
Whats your answers. em, waiting...
Yes your right the hydraulic pistons.
No one as yet has diagnosed this answer, its always the arm bearings or height corrector.
Next ---- How do we get these cylinders out. Anyone got a simple way. Realise the cylinder fluid connections will go rounded.
Got plenty of time, like next year as its cold outside.
Many Thanks,
Gordy

[MULLEY]

Eh Kiwi's post is about creaking coming from the rear, not the front so i've got no idea what your post has got to do with anything. If you have genuine issues which appears to what you mention in your rant, why dont you create one of your own rather than on this one, & you may actually get some sound advice on the problems your encountering.

[docchevron]

I think he means the rear cylinder pistons...

Erm, if they are causing the car to loose suspension travel then they are fucked beyond belief, so much so I'd be amazed if they weren't pissing fluid out everywhere.

How to get them out?
Easy, remove sphere from cylinder, undo the union (if they wont undo then you're left with cutting the pipe off, applying heat and using a socket), remove R clip from rear arm, remove the vent pipe and return pipe, twist and pull the whole thing out. Sorted.

If it really is your cylinders that are causing this then there's a good reason why everyone always goes with arm bearings... because your situation is clearly unique.

Back to arm bearings, all above advice is good, but also worth jacking the car up, supporting it firmly (usual precautions and all that H&S shit) and give the whole arm a good tug latterally across the car and back, any movement?
Equally, release the pressure from the suspension and move the arm up and down, any noise or roughness?

[gordy]

Oh sorry boys when I mentioned rear arm bearings and Height correctors and Hydrolic Cylinders I should have said that this relates to a BX Citroen.
I appologise to Mulley cincerely that my words could have related to a hole in the ozone layer.
As too the rear arm bearings (must put rear in) that are so easily removed and taken to bits they are as new/perfect/like just out of the box on my car.
Sqeeking/squeeling/creaking can an does relate to a dry slidding surface as per engineering instructions MT678/61 in my job but if you tell me your job I'll see if I can find your Engireering instructions. However this should be in your training as Motor Vehicle Engineers.
I take it you's are, arent you's, as experts ??
Past posts in your forums relate to the front Suspension legs sticking/creaking and the solution is too squirt oil (don't say that) or the green stuff (ticking off here) in holes on suspension cylinders/legs.
Well the rear cylinders have same holes, YES/NO.
Answer please !!!!
Gordy.

[docchevron]

No, the rear cylinders do not have the same holes since they dont havea strut top mount.

Are you having a bad day Gordy?
Or are you always this abrupt?

You know the arm bearings are as new how?
You've just fitted them?

You're an engineer? I'm guessing a dyslexic engineer?

If you are so well versed with sliding surfaces then why ask on here since we are so clearly beneath your overwhelming wealth of engineering knowledge.

[Linegeist]

Pleasant little womble, isn't he?

[BX Bandit]

Womble is rather kind Mr Poltergeist I think he's a fraud, a figment or a fucking waste of time!

[Linegeist]

Womble is rather kind Mr Poltergeist I think he's a fraud, a figment or a fucking waste of time!

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[kiwi]

Typical as a question get 3 good answers the rest is

Many thanks to Mulley, Citronut and Dochervon for the help in this one. Have checked given it a wobble and tightned up anything that looked loose, however nothing obvious.

I got the price now so times that by three gives me something to work with in kiwi$ (without any mechanical labour charges that is).

It is not the only problem that has been uncovered since the strut return pipe sprung a leak! She needs a new CV Boot maybe another within a few months and she has here Biannual check due. That plus the old roading licence that was recently increased by $35py and another $40 to come sooon has now made the 3rd car option a bit of a luxury.(2 is bad enough).(yes thats expired as well).

She was purchased on the cheap as parts for the other BX I have so it is a tough call. But then been saying that the last year of ownership already

Thanks again to citronut, mulley and dochervon for the insight and help.

[millbanksunclub]

I think Gordy's problem is down to his use of the poyd I have seen this in the past we all know its easy to cut the corner off said poyd but when using the poyd from the middle not all of the poyd content will be used this will then cause the bearing to fail all to quick you must use the poyd from the bottom to get the job done well. A quick way to tell if this job has been done well is to use service tool number 3184 T I know a lot of you have made your own service tools for this but for our newer members here is photo of a real poyd service tool you should be able to make your own from this photo
good luck
regards
Graham

[kiwi]

Erm I still want to know how Gordys problem relates to the same problems that the original Poster (me) has asked for help from.

All this spam time for breakfast cheers

[BX Bandit]

Graham, what does POYD mean/stand for? Interesting tool, but, umm what does it do?

Oh stop crying Kiwi