windows

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:54 pm

Im having problems with my electric windows.
I trun the key and they not work. I unturn it then back on agine and it works.
Its been doing it quite a bit now.
Started happerning a month ago. I was driving wanted to put my windows up. Pulled over nothing happern. Then swich it on and off worked fine. Though nothing of it.
I havern tried the back ones when they go. But the frount and sunroof. Keep messing about.

THANKS

Vanny · Post by **Vanny** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:02 am

Are you saying the sunroof and the windows fail at the same time? Does anything else fail? Can you check the rear windows next time the fault occurs?

If it was just the front windows, i would suggest the relay, but if other things are failing at the same time then i suggests probably a problem with the ignition barrel.

rayfenwick · Post by **rayfenwick** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:49 am

Having recently cured a faulty ignition barrel, that would be my diagnosis from what you've said.

richardd1652 · Post by **richardd1652** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:45 am

I had the same trouble with a Saxo.The heater blower wouldnt work and it turned out to be the ignition barrel.
Richard.

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:13 pm

No they dont go up and down on the swich. I have to restart the ignetion. I dosent happern all the time. But just latley its been doing a bit more.

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:40 pm

It did it againe today.
I was in the car park put the windows down. Got back home then i tryed to put them up. The sunroof 2 frount windows didnt work. I should have tryed the back ones. But forgot. So i truned the ignition off and on. Then they was ok.

prm · Post by **prm** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:34 pm

Try removing just the front door switches, disconnect the multi-pin blocks and check the operation on the rear windows and sun roof. Would go for the driver’s door first.

Could be the contacts on the driver’s switch locking in, causing the main thermal safety relay to remain tripped.
Possible ?? fault/connection problem on the main control box.

Regards

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:26 pm

Thanks
I do know the one touch button is a bit stuck in. I dont use it becase if i do somtimes. It goes down by its self.
Could that be another reason.
Thanks

prm · Post by **prm** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:08 pm

I should imagine that’s the cause, with the auto fully up-down buttons on the driver’s side locked in, but don’t rule out the main control box

What gave me a slight pointer is the windows would operate with an off-on ignition, where the thermal relay would possibly reset on a once only basis,

Don’t check the auto close safety thermal/pressure stop with your hand or head. They bloody hurt.

The safety pressure is not as sensitive as modern units.

Regards

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:21 pm

Thanks.
See what happerns

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:04 pm

Any one a the citroen car club wanna look at it for some money.

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:53 pm

Its not just the windows what pack up. Its also the electric mirror as well. It like all the electrics pack up. The louxury iterms lol. Windows mirrors emmmm surley theres somemore. But the ones for driving the car. Like the indercaters lights dont. They seeem to be ok.

rayfenwick · Post by **rayfenwick** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:07 pm

Ignition barrel..... but I said this before.

My car had *exactly* the same symptoms until I replaced the return spring.

It could also be the connection where the 2 plugs on the end of the barrel join the loom under the dash, but they seemed pretty reliable looking from what I remember.

jacksun1987 · Post by **jacksun1987** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:22 pm

Ill see what happerns thanks. It is slowley geting worst but last night had no problem with it. Mabye i just have to turne the key slightley harder or turn it over a bit more when starting. Somthing silly like that.

rayfenwick · Post by **rayfenwick** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:38 pm

The problem is quite likely the opposite - that after turning to the start position to start the engine it isn't returning exactly to the "everything on and engine running" position. Try encouraging it a little, and see if that makes a difference.