Petrol draining back .............. is this common, gents?

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:32 pm

Hmmm - seems 'can't miss 'em may have been an exaggeration !

Book 1 - Theory pub around 1968 / 1973 - there's a tatty one on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960-s-WEBER-CARB ... 483de77cf0there's one on eBay bundled with other books - it's the one at top right...

and is on Amazon from £4.19

Book 2 - Tuning and maintenance pub around 1972 - there's one on eBay bundled with other books - it's the one at top right...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tuning-Ford-Escor ... 255f792e73

and is on Amazon from £7.00

And now it seems I'm out of date here - there's another one I haven't seen before - looks as though it could be a reprint combining the 2 older books - no idea if anything has been updated in this 2008 version...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tune-Build-Weber- ... 3cb2dd3832

Also on Amazon from £6.57

Looking at the list of chapters most of the new book seems to be from the original book 2 though at 128pp there's probably little of the book 1 theory since the original book 2 is 116pp. The original book 1 is 80pp.

Linegeist · Post by **Linegeist** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:11 pm

Brian, you are a mine of useful stuff - I owe you one (as well as paypal)

Books ordered! $\:D/$

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:32 am

Books ordered!

Brill

What did we do before Paypal eh - I might grab a copy of the latest offering myself - could have a bit of extra nollij there

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:47 am

Oh and BTW, the solenoid valves I ordered from the guy in Lithuania on Nov 28th arrived yesterday - I'll fit one to the Granny when it's a bit warmer outside.

Linegeist · Post by **Linegeist** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:18 am

electrokid wrote:Oh and BTW, the solenoid valves I ordered from the guy in Lithuania on Nov 28th arrived yesterday - I'll fit one to the Granny when it's a bit warmer outside.

If I wheel the mother-in-law across to your place, could you do a twofer?

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:05 am

Yeah it's an unfortunate nickname for what is a great car

I keep getting tempted to put up a pic of it but I'm sure that would be frowned upon

I've now been to Amazon (software that works WELL for goodness sake - it'll never catch on

) and ordered the 2008 booky wook - couldn't stop there of course - I'm interested in too much stuff

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:26 am

Go for it Brian! If I can get away with bringing a VW van to a Citroen show instead of the BX then I'm sure we can allow some gratuitous Ford photos on here...

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:25 pm

Wow- thanks for that Mat. I should, of course, say er... that this is and example of the size of car that can be made very fuel efficient by the careful use of a Weber carb

does that sound close to topic ?

I could only find a small pic of it on this computer

however, as I was wandering through the archives I found this article I wrote / modification I designed and built in 2005 - spotlamp switching controller which may have some usable ideas.

I put the button switches into the control stalk - possible because the granny control stalks are hollow and can be dismantled - unlike the BX's - but then the BX's control stalks are stronger.

I have to say that the actual skinny and stylish spots used in this design are complete rubbish

best use larger / normal ones.

http://www.briandenmee.com/Granada/DLweb.htm

Linegeist · Post by **Linegeist** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:12 am

Nice car ...! I have a soft spot for the big Fords - so, by way of balance I loathe the smaller ones.

That model Granny was about the best they made (IMHO). Buckets of character.

The Mk1 was rather nice as well, with the Essex V6 engine, but the body rotted quicker than underpants on a tramp. Once my Mk1 Granny'd done the colander thing, I swapped its engine & 'box into a second-hand Mk2 Escort GT (some interesting bellhousing and propshaft welding went on there

). Big mistake. That V6 Escort was the best laxative I'd ever had - until that too rotted away within 18 months.

Nice to see a Granny still on the road in that condition - they're getting scarce now.

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:05 am

Buckets of character.

And handling - unequal parallelogram front and semi-trailing arm rear - phew - I need a few moments to myself after writing that

Sadly this one this one went to the great Cologne re-assembly plant in the sky due to terminal rust around the rear engine mount

the one I have on the road at the moment is the same model same colour except it's the estate and 2.8 - also in very good nick.

There was something special about that saloon though - I'd be walking along doing some shopping or some such and I'd see a car and think 'hey that looks really great... oh - hang on that's my car'

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:02 pm

The latest of the John Passini books has now arrived and is as I thought it would be '... combined, revised and enlarged edition...' of the previous 2 volume publication.

After a quick look through it doesn't look as though it specifically covers any of the newer carbs - probably a good deal if you want it all in one volume - but then both the print and the diagrams are all smaller to cram it all into a similar sized book so those whose eyesight is slightly less precise than it used to be - like mine - might prefer the larger text of the original books.

Linegeist · Post by **Linegeist** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:36 pm

My Weber book arrived today - along with the electric fuel pump ordered on 4th December!

Looking at the fuel pump today, I had a brainwave .............

After I'd taken a cold shower and had a stiff whisky to steady my nerves after this unexpected event, I thought about it some more......

1. I want the electric pump to overcome the drain-back problem my car experiences after standing unused for several days at a time.

2. Using the electric pump presents potential fuel pressure problems, possibly requiring a regulator.

The answer to both these factors is, of course, to simply plumb the pump in line with the existing set-up ... and use it purely as a pre-start priming device, activated by a switch in the cabin. The mechanical pump will draw petrol through the electric pump once the engine's running in the usual way, and the only time the elctric pumps will need to be used is when the car's to be started after a 2+ day lay-up.

This configuration also gives me a secondary backup fuel pump should the mechanical jobbie decide to fail away from home.

Neat huh?

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:00 pm

Or, wire it via a relay supplied from an ignition supply and earthed through the oil pressure switch. That way you'll only power it when the key is turned but the engine not started. Or if you lose oil pressure whilst driving along...

Post by **Defender110** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:30 pm

Will the eletric pump free flow if not in use?

electrokid · Post by **electrokid** » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:37 pm

That does sound neat

I like the idea of using the oil pressure switch for 'pre start' functions - that's neat too

I was thinking of heating the air in the airbox of the diesel to assist with cold starting - considered using the glowplug output to drive that but the oil pressure switch with a relay would do the job just as well. Of course with a petrol engine there's not the glowplug's blue box so the oil pressure switch can do that job - very bright idea IMHO