Bottom balljoint ( steering swivel)

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Post by JayW »

citronut wrote:i would not use too much heat as it can melt the grease in the wheel bearing, then that will be your next job,


regards malcolm
Hence doing it off the car so the joint can be positioned uppermost (as heat rises) :wink:

Never had one fail yet... YET :lol:
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Post by tim »

This thread was perfect timing as the pre-MOT on the wife's BX has fingered the same ball joint, and I was going to tackle the job next week. However, one snag - I can't get the tools!! Neither Pleiades nor AEP can help, nor could my local motor factor. A call to my local Citroen dealership confirmed what I'd read on the forum before - if you ain't a franchised dealer, f.o.a.d.
So there now be two of us in need of the tools to do the job - can anyone help on this?? If we can't get the kit it means paying a dealer to do it; ouch, mutter mutter.
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Post by Defender110 »

Sdelasal's reply has an ebay link to the tool required.
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Post by MULLEY »

I think my txd is in need of a replacement ball joint as well due to some clonking sounds. Anybody know which manufacturer seems the best as this one which was cheap crap i bought, & in less than 2 yrs needs replacing, i bet the original was on the car for years :x

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Post by Defender110 »

Mathew, Matt Fenwicks AEP link are OEM ball joints.
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Post by MULLEY »

Aha, didn't spot that :D
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Post by citronut »

what about these,

http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Lower-Ball ... aley-SX027


http://www.shopwiki.co.uk/Lower+Ball+Jo ... 05/Citroen


http://www.toolsandpowertools.co.uk/veh ... 5-citroen/


just enter this into a google search and loads of results come up


"citroen peugeot lower ball joint tool uk"


or try GSF and ECP


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Post by Linegeist »

There are times Malcolm, when I'm tempted to nominate you for MENSA membership! :wink: Top stuff!!! =D>

EDIT: Tool ordered!!
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Post by tim »

Cheers for that - I missed that one. What about the other one though.looks like an adjustable splitter, Haynes give it a part number in the illustrations. Do we not need that one as well? Pardon my ignorance, the only ball joints I've ever had to do were Land-Rover ones where you just mullered the end with a clubhammer and off it popped. I do have the basic universal tool but not what's shown in the pics.
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Post by citronut »

these tools are for unscrewing the joint from the bottom of the hub carrier,

not for seperating the swivle pin from the lower arm,


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Post by Defender110 »

Yes Malc but Tim is asking about the other tool shown required in rmattila's 2 posts (holding tool), why do you need one of these?

http://www.rmattila.com/images/remontit ... totyokalu/
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Post by Linegeist »

I rather suspect it's for stopping the leg turning axially when you exert a turning force on the balljoint socket Kev.

An elegant - if rather over-engineered solution. :?
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Post by rmattila »

Linegeist wrote:I rather suspect it's for stopping the leg turning axially when you exert a turning force on the balljoint socket Kev.

An elegant - if rather over-engineered solution. :?
It is sometimes useful to be able to keep the leg in place:

http://www.rmattila.com/images/remontit ... l_auki.jpg
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Post by Defender110 »

ah ha! I was thinking the ball joint was attached to the wishbone not the suspension leg.

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Post by rmattila »

Detaching the joint from the wishbone is usually no problem - the challenging part is taking it off the hub carrier: http://www.rmattila.com/images/remontit ... vel019.jpg .

It gets more straightforward if you go through the trouble of taking the hub carrier off the strut and taking it to the shop, but with those tools it is easy to do the job with the hub carrier in place, thus saving the trouble.
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