Possible to make raised suspension softer??
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good point there Graeme, I hadn't considered that it would be running THAT much higher, but the post above does give an indication that it may be getting friendly with the stops!
Exactley how much have you raised the ride height here?
It could be too far!
Interesting schematic, I didn't realise they only had one sphere!
Could be that it's died... it must work extremley hard!
Exactley how much have you raised the ride height here?
It could be too far!
Interesting schematic, I didn't realise they only had one sphere!
Could be that it's died... it must work extremley hard!
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Far too many BX's, a bus, an ambulance a few trucks, not enough time and never enough cash...
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Sorry guy's, i thought this was a total wind-up even after Doc said it wasn't, i thought you were continuing the gag on the 1st page Never seen a 4x4 405, so had no idea that it was hydraulic. Erm, does it have a hydraulic pump of sorts?
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Well what do you know a half breed BX, well guess had to be around given what engines we use in the BX.MULLEY wrote:Sorry guy's, i thought this was a total wind-up even after Doc said it wasn't, i thought you were continuing the gag on the 1st page Never seen a 4x4 405, so had no idea that it was hydraulic. Erm, does it have a hydraulic pump of sorts?
Still reckon Aussie Frogs might have the answer your looking for being an all makes French club.
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Unlike the suspension system you would see on a BX 4x4 this system is somewhat more complicated than exen the BX.How did you raise the ride height mate?
On the non 16V Peugeot 405 4x4 the ride height is controlled by the position of a variable resistor which is connected to the anti-roll bar, by a plastic link which is able to pivot. Somehow this resistance value is then transmitted to the dedicated 12V hydraulic pump mounted on the rear subframe, depending on the position of the antiroll bar. Only the Mi16v 4x4 version has an engine driven hydraulic pump.
From memory I believe the Peugeot 405 4x4 only has one suspension sphere, but it has no restrictor in it, making it look almost like an accumulator sphere from a BX.
I do have some remaining parts from a Peugeot 405 4x4 rear suspension setup from a scrapyard donor, I aquired when I needed parts for a BX 4x4, PM me if interested.
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Have you still got the gearbox and transfer gearbox from that car, if so I would be interested if its still any good, as a means to possibly getting a dead Bx GTi 4x4 back on the road that has the usual spline problem, which is a long term restoration project. As I understand the MI16x4 has a tougher spline drive between gearbox and transfer box.Ah, so I wasn't dreaming it then! I knew the Mi16x4 had an engine driven pump as I got the 205 engine from one - was going to use the exhaust cam pulley to drive a PAS pump. But I thought | remembered working on a 405 with an electric suspension pump...
If anyone is interested.....
'The psa 4wd system comes in 4 levels of sophistication and the 405 glx4 is equiped with the simplest of them. This runs to a permanent front/rear torque split and manually selected lockable center and rear differentials. The bx estate is 1 step up with its limited slip rear diff, the bx gti improves on this with a torsen rear diff and the mi16 goes all the way with an automatic torque apportioning center diff and torsen rear end.'
My 405 is a 1.9 td estate with full mi16 4x4 system and rear suspension.
'The psa 4wd system comes in 4 levels of sophistication and the 405 glx4 is equiped with the simplest of them. This runs to a permanent front/rear torque split and manually selected lockable center and rear differentials. The bx estate is 1 step up with its limited slip rear diff, the bx gti improves on this with a torsen rear diff and the mi16 goes all the way with an automatic torque apportioning center diff and torsen rear end.'
My 405 is a 1.9 td estate with full mi16 4x4 system and rear suspension.
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You forgot to mention that the BX also has the additional feature in that the centre diff can also be locked up, so as to provide extra traction on slippery surfaces.'The psa 4wd system comes in 4 levels of sophistication and the 405 glx4 is equiped with the simplest of them. This runs to a permanent front/rear torque split and manually selected lockable center and rear differentials. The bx estate is 1 step up with its limited slip rear diff, the bx gti improves on this with a torsen rear diff and the mi16 goes all the way with an automatic torque apportioning center diff and torsen rear end.'
What a system the 4WD could have being for both Peugeot and Citroen. Apart from the Peugeot 406 Mi16x4 they decided to make the coupling splines between the gearbox and transfer box of insufficient size. This cheapening up process for the lower spec 4x4 systems must have saved all of £10/car.
With all these 4x4 Bx's coming out of the woodwork lately you could have realised that dreamInteresting - my dream drivetrain system, shame it's in the 'wrong' shell...
Who would have thought it, that the least desirable BX of them all, is now becoming quite collectable.
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I really don't understand the logic of a hydraulic system just for the rear of a 405? why not use conventional springs?
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