alternator or battery
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alternator or battery
I was driving in the fog the battery light came on. Mu lights where dimming wiper going slow. Had to turn my heater off to keep the lights on.
It was well bad.
The battery light keeps comming on and off. But it still starts up first time.
What could it be?
THANKS
It was well bad.
The battery light keeps comming on and off. But it still starts up first time.
What could it be?
THANKS
PAUL JACKSON
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1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
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cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
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Paul i would also check your earthing points battery earth strap attaches to gearbox housing IIRC.
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1989 BX GTi 16 valve. Blanc Alpine. Completed the Citroen Classic Challenge Ecosse and 1337 miles without a hitch.
2000 XM VSX 2.1 td Auto. Rouge Magenta.
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Took it out for a quick drive. It took 5 minites to rise up mabye longer.
The battery light came on when i left it standing for a bit and had things on in the car. Started up with out the battery light on though. But te warning hydorolic light stayed on for ages.
My grandad said could be a faulty earth connection. Have to get it tested. Ill have a look tomo.
The battery light came on when i left it standing for a bit and had things on in the car. Started up with out the battery light on though. But te warning hydorolic light stayed on for ages.
My grandad said could be a faulty earth connection. Have to get it tested. Ill have a look tomo.
PAUL JACKSON
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
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Slipping belt...?
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I had the belt checked. They said it was ok. I do hope i get a job soon. Then i can come down to te next bx meeting and sort it out. Or if i have enough redundancy money. Take it to bob wildings or bullwinkles. And give them the keys tell them to sort it.
PAUL JACKSON
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
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To be honest mate, you'd be better off learning to sort it yourself. It's not rocket science to check all the connections and won't cost anything at all to do it yourself. If that doesn't cure it, borrow a voltmeter off someone and it'll be easy enough to check the alternator output as well, then at least you'll know if it's that or the battery.jacksun1987 wrote:And give them the keys tell them to sort it.
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This sounds like a simple job to me as well.
You say the belt is not slipping! How often have we heard that line and been told that only to find the belt is slipping because it is in need of replacement.
Adjusting the belts on the BXs are fiddly and annoying to get the knack of and if your not checking them correctly your going to get low battery charge warnings and slow Hydraulic rise.
Given you said
Very easy to steer to to the Earthing faults, battery etc and overlook the obvious.
You say the belt is not slipping! How often have we heard that line and been told that only to find the belt is slipping because it is in need of replacement.
Adjusting the belts on the BXs are fiddly and annoying to get the knack of and if your not checking them correctly your going to get low battery charge warnings and slow Hydraulic rise.
Given you said
This is where I would be seriously looking at being the culprits as being poorly adjusted belts.It took 5 minites to rise up mabye longer.
The battery light came on when i left it standing for a bit and had things on in the car. Started up with out the battery light on though. But te warning hydorolic light stayed on for ages.
Very easy to steer to to the Earthing faults, battery etc and overlook the obvious.
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Exactly what I thought, but I'm used to being ignoredkiwi wrote:This sounds like a simple job to me as well.
You say the belt is not slipping! How often have we heard that line and been told that only to find the belt is slipping because it is in need of replacement.
Adjusting the belts on the BXs are fiddly and annoying to get the knack of and if your not checking them correctly your going to get low battery charge warnings and slow Hydraulic rise.
Given you saidThis is where I would be seriously looking at being the culprits as being poorly adjusted belts.It took 5 minites to rise up mabye longer.
The battery light came on when i left it standing for a bit and had things on in the car. Started up with out the battery light on though. But te warning hydorolic light stayed on for ages.
Very easy to steer to to the Earthing faults, battery etc and overlook the obvious.
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Thanks Kiwi
It's no secret I'm not so good with the mechanical stuff of cars. I understand the theories fair enough, but for health reasons I'm not much use at the heavy practical stuff.
My bit of Sherlock Holmes reasoning goes like this: the only thing that connects the hydraulic system and the electrical system is the belt. Until that's been ruled out by proper investigation, a belt fault is more likely than separate electrical and hydraulic faults that happen to manifest themselves at exactly the same time...
Of course it might not be the belt, but a methodical process of elimination from the ground up has to be the most sensible way.
When I bought my BX it was fine on the journey from Richards, but next day squealed like a banshee whenever the regulator kicked in. I feared a collapsed bearing or some such in the pump, or an associated pulley on something else. Turned out to be.... slack belt.
Paul - if you can get your car sorted by spending 5 mins with a spanner, it's a lot better than handing over money, dropping your trousers and asking someone to sort it for you...
It's no secret I'm not so good with the mechanical stuff of cars. I understand the theories fair enough, but for health reasons I'm not much use at the heavy practical stuff.
My bit of Sherlock Holmes reasoning goes like this: the only thing that connects the hydraulic system and the electrical system is the belt. Until that's been ruled out by proper investigation, a belt fault is more likely than separate electrical and hydraulic faults that happen to manifest themselves at exactly the same time...
Of course it might not be the belt, but a methodical process of elimination from the ground up has to be the most sensible way.
When I bought my BX it was fine on the journey from Richards, but next day squealed like a banshee whenever the regulator kicked in. I feared a collapsed bearing or some such in the pump, or an associated pulley on something else. Turned out to be.... slack belt.
Paul - if you can get your car sorted by spending 5 mins with a spanner, it's a lot better than handing over money, dropping your trousers and asking someone to sort it for you...
Ray
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Not on the diesels...sorry to spoil your logical deduction!rayfenwick wrote:My bit of Sherlock Holmes reasoning goes like this: the only thing that connects the hydraulic system and the electrical system is the belt.
I think that spending a few quid on a multimeter (as already mentioned) would go a long way to pinpointing the electrical problem.
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I think i have done it. I had a gander at the battety and i saw this lead with a black clip on it. I then saw the small retangle box thing. It had 3 leads on it 2 on one side and 1 on another. So i got the leed plug it back in. Tured evrything on in the car. The lights went out on the dashboared. Nothing. The widscreen wiper was faster.
And before has i was comming down the drive with only the fan on. The battery light was on.
And before has i was comming down the drive with only the fan on. The battery light was on.
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PAUL JACKSON
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
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I'll stfu thenmat_fenwick wrote: Not on the diesels...sorry to spoil your logical deduction!
Agreed. Useless for the hydraulics thoughmat_fenwick wrote: I think that spending a few quid on a multimeter (as already mentioned) would go a long way to pinpointing the electrical problem.
Ray
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tempted to unplug it then see what happerns. If it does the same things as before. lol
PAUL JACKSON
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got
1991 h reg 1.7tzd hatch in black 159.000 miles had
1992 k reg 1.7 txd hatch in red 179. 000 miles had
Renaul laguna exspessin 02 plate 1.8 16v 75 k had
cosa 1.2 brezze 150 k had
406 glx 1.9 td 170k s reg white got