Knocking engine and burning oil when hot

mds141 · Post by **mds141** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:08 pm

Max don't get rid or disheartened. I would get some quotes from another garage or try a Citroen specialist this side of the water. Dave Ashworth is in Blackpool so you could come over via Larne to Heysham treat it as a mini-break. Hope this helps. Mark.

maxgreenwood · Post by **maxgreenwood** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:24 pm

thanks Mark i'll look into that. Labour is certainly cheaper in the UK as well as parts when converting the euro to the pound.

I'm not disheartened really, I've come to accept this as par for the course when being into old cars. I didn't buy wisely and was kind of aware of that at the time. However i ploughed a bit of money in and now the engine needs a serious rebuild. The car is a bit rough but does have it's good points. There are a few holes that should be welded up, and sensibly I should just find a better one with a more solid shell, but there's a possibility i might get the engine work done at some stage if it's reasonable price wise in the uk / or i might go the route of replacement engine just for the interest and sense of achievement, and to have her working well again.

I can't drive it at the moment, it's just too smelly, it's gotten particularly bad in the last week. Put some 'stop smoke' in today and that hasn't made any difference.

I've currently got anl XM estate in my sights. But i couldn't live without a BX. I'll miss it, and that will get me to get moving on doing the work on it i would imagine.

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:38 pm

Does this mean you might not need anymore those olds alloys you've been given?

maxgreenwood · Post by **maxgreenwood** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:17 pm

Does this mean you might not need anymore those olds alloys you've been given?

er... i wouldn't say that. I'd be interested in keeping them for another BX. They're fairly rare. I prob wouldn't put them on the TZS as it wouldn't suit i don't think. i like the buck-rogers hub-caps.

Someone else is welcome to them if they can be picked up before i can get to them, i'll probably collect them in the next couple of months.

I'll keep them safe though should anyone else require some in the future, maybe in exchange for some engine work

maxgreenwood · Post by **maxgreenwood** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:06 pm

What would be the easiest/most suitable transplant engine for a 16TZS (carb)

And no i don't want to convert it to diesel!

Are all Pug/Renault/Cit 1.6 engine from that era similar?

What about a 1.6injection

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:19 pm

Forget Renaults, but 205/309/405 should give more possibilities. Injection means more complexity (wiring loom/fuel pump etc) and I would advise against unless a donor car is to hand. The only non GTi 205 I can think of is the auto, and not 100% sure that isn't injected too...

A 1.9 carb engine might be a nice swap, just as easy as putting in an identical 1.6.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:21 pm

mat_fenwick wrote:Forget Renaults, but 205/309/405 should give more possibilities. Injection means more complexity (wiring loom/fuel pump etc) and I would advise against unless a donor car is to hand. The only non GTi 205 I can think of is the auto, and not 100% sure that isn't injected too...

A 1.9 carb engine might be a nice swap, just as easy as putting in an identical 1.6.

Indeed the 1.9 does give it quite a bit more oooomph! richard from wakefield was breaking a 1.6/1.9 auto?

maxgreenwood · Post by **maxgreenwood** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:43 pm

sounds good to me. Pm sent to Richard.

Is it just the TDs and Gtis then that used the thicker driveshafts?

And what's the deal with my new clutch, i suppose that will be replaced too

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:48 pm

Just the TDs and the 16v with the thicker driveshafts.

With it being such a recent clutch, assuming there are no signs of oil contamination then I would swap it onto the replacement engine.

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:28 pm

Hypothetically speaking, what other engines would work for a straight swap? I also have the XU5 carb with similar mileage, the rest of the car being in good shape and imagine one day it will also phail or prove too expensive to fuel. Ideally I'd like the XUD9 or a DW8 (306, Berlingo etc) if it'd fit.

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:35 pm

DW8 has the same basic bottom end as the XUD, but I believe the heads are different and it is ECU controlled. Should physically fit no problems, but an XUD swap would be more straightforward.

But still a step up from swapping in another carb engine - you have the glowplug wiring to consider, different throttle cable, fuel tank to drain and refill, rev counter to change etc...

maxgreenwood · Post by **maxgreenwood** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:40 pm

i wouldn't really want to go there i don't think, i like the idea of a simple 1.9 carb.
Perhaps a 1.9 twin carb like the BX sport, now that would be pretty good fun, probably tricky though and expensive and not great on fuel!

Post by **Tim Leech** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:47 pm

maxgreenwood wrote:i wouldn't really want to go there i don't think, i like the idea of a simple 1.9 carb.
Perhaps a 1.9 twin carb like the BX sport, now that would be pretty good fun, !

Haha try finding one! trust me the 1.9 with the twin choke carb is quite adequate! and a starting difference from the 1.6, which in itself is now slouch. I know David rutherford had a 1.6 engine and box out of snoopy a while back.

mds141 · Post by **mds141** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:53 pm

Did Leobx16v get rid of the engine/'box from his crashed valver? Would make an interesting conversion especially with carbs replacing the efi system.

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