Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
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Right, so there has been a slight creak from the nsr corner, started to wonder if the work I just had done there was failing already.
Anyway, had a peek and it looks like at some point either myself (don't remember this happening) or a tyre place (as has been said by many never let them do anything) has jacked the car using the little plate that sits directly under the rear strut, causing it to deform slightly. This has obviously grazed the rubber sufficiently to completely bloody destroy it, which has probably let all sorts in. The plate doesn't appear to be actually touching the strut, and I'm confident in being able to pull it/bend it back out/straight.
But clearly I'll need a new boot on there. Probably going to be a garage job, but just wanted to check and see if by some miracle this is easy. Ha ha.
If I've used the wrong terms for the parts, or if you have no idea what I'm on about I will happily elaborate.
Cheers.
Right, so there has been a slight creak from the nsr corner, started to wonder if the work I just had done there was failing already.
Anyway, had a peek and it looks like at some point either myself (don't remember this happening) or a tyre place (as has been said by many never let them do anything) has jacked the car using the little plate that sits directly under the rear strut, causing it to deform slightly. This has obviously grazed the rubber sufficiently to completely bloody destroy it, which has probably let all sorts in. The plate doesn't appear to be actually touching the strut, and I'm confident in being able to pull it/bend it back out/straight.
But clearly I'll need a new boot on there. Probably going to be a garage job, but just wanted to check and see if by some miracle this is easy. Ha ha.
If I've used the wrong terms for the parts, or if you have no idea what I'm on about I will happily elaborate.
Cheers.
Martin
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
Not a difficult job at all - the only possible issue might be getting the end of the pushrod from the strut out from its recess in the suspension arm. It's held in place by a spring clip which may have also rusted into position. If you can do that then you're laughing!
I'd be worried about corrosion of the piston, but hopefully you've caught it in time before any damage is done.
I'd be worried about corrosion of the piston, but hopefully you've caught it in time before any damage is done.
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
The other "only possible problem" is the hydraulic pipe probably won't come off the strut cylinder intact.
Probably best to get a replacement pipe before you start.
As Mat says,the aluminium of the cylinder can rot though. The dirt collects under it.
I replaced my N/S strut 3 years ago,and intend to do the O/S soon.
Mike
Probably best to get a replacement pipe before you start.
As Mat says,the aluminium of the cylinder can rot though. The dirt collects under it.
I replaced my N/S strut 3 years ago,and intend to do the O/S soon.
Mike
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
I'll have a look at Haynes and see if it looks within my abilities. Cheers for the thoughts.
The front struts really need replacing too I think, very sticky and pretty corroded under the rubber too.
Erg.
Oh well.
Thanks.
The front struts really need replacing too I think, very sticky and pretty corroded under the rubber too.
Erg.
Oh well.
Thanks.
Martin
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
I've got one of these to do on Timex.
Haynes says you have to remove the whole thing from the sub frame to do it, but I've been told that you can do it in situ by unclipping the end from the arm then swinging the arm up.
I'd check your other side where the return pipes connect - that's where mine's gone. Got the replacement from the local dealer - cost just over £6 IIRC.
Haynes says you have to remove the whole thing from the sub frame to do it, but I've been told that you can do it in situ by unclipping the end from the arm then swinging the arm up.
I'd check your other side where the return pipes connect - that's where mine's gone. Got the replacement from the local dealer - cost just over £6 IIRC.
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
I was actually meaning corrosion of the steel piston which is normally protected by the boot, like this:Mike E (uk) wrote:The other "only possible problem" is the hydraulic pipe probably won't come off the strut cylinder intact.
Probably best to get a replacement pipe before you start.
As Mat says,the aluminium of the cylinder can rot though. The dirt collects under it.
The photo is proof that you can change the boot with the strut still in place, so you shouldn't need to worry about the hydraulic feed pipe. Mike is right though, the aluminium cylinder wall can corrode right through.
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
I've had to have a rear strut replaced, it was rotted from the outside, the metal was so soft a screwdriver could make the damaged section look like swiss cheese with no effort. It's that shield around it that appears to capture dirt which builds up over time & then it gets wet, stay's wet & corrodes the aluminium cylinder. Damn annoying, as otherwise the rear cylinders would last practically forever as they seem sturdier than the fronts. Good news is that the non-hydractive xantia rear struts are available 2nd hand or new with a slight modification which will allow them to fit. The pistons need swapping over though as the xantia one is a different lenghth.
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
As I've mentioned before, I drilled a small hole at the lowest point of the shield to prevent water/mud build up there. That was back in 2005 (both of mine failed within a week!) and subsequent inspections have shown only a little corrosion. Time will tell whether it's an improvement!
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
I tried painting mine, they've lasted 13 years, but looking crusty now...
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
here is price and part No.'s of the boot and retaining clip from citroen
Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
26140919 BOOT CLAMP 5.56 GBP 6.67 GBP 6.67 GBP
95577323 CYLINDER BOOT 7.94 GBP 9.53 GBP 9.53 GBP
you could give Malcolm Lockwood (M C Lockwood ) a call on
01274 640590
as he is usually very helpful and prompt service with reasonable price's,
regards malcolm
Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
26140919 BOOT CLAMP 5.56 GBP 6.67 GBP 6.67 GBP
95577323 CYLINDER BOOT 7.94 GBP 9.53 GBP 9.53 GBP
you could give Malcolm Lockwood (M C Lockwood ) a call on
01274 640590
as he is usually very helpful and prompt service with reasonable price's,
regards malcolm
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
Thanks very much for all the thoughts, and Malcolm, thanks for the numbers.
I'm definitely up for trying this myself, but it does look a bit scary. Oh well.
I'm definitely up for trying this myself, but it does look a bit scary. Oh well.
Martin
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
Did it myself today on Timex - you may need WD40 or similar on the clip to free it up, but did it in situ in about an hour, but the next one will be quicker!
Push the rod through the cover to locate it before feeding both into the cylinder (don't forget the clamp).
Once the rod and cover are positioned, jack the arm up to push it all into place before inserting the clip.
Push the rod through the cover to locate it before feeding both into the cylinder (don't forget the clamp).
Once the rod and cover are positioned, jack the arm up to push it all into place before inserting the clip.
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
dont use that ORRIBLE W stuff as its not a lub or freeing agent, but a moisture displace'nt
and it dont do as it says on the can
regards malcolm
and it dont do as it says on the can
regards malcolm
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
It helped in this case, but I must admit I only used it because it was what my mate (who's drive I've been using) had lying around!
Mike Sims
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Re: Rear strut boot gone bye bye.
I've used PlusGas in the part which seems to work well - I also like Bilt Hamber products, although they're not the cheapest, but after treating one BX to loads of their cavity wax I got some of this that works well too for penetrating duties...
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