Kevan
1997 Mercedes C230 W202
2003 Land Rover Discovery Series 2 Facelift TD5 - Daily driver / hobby days and camping.
1993 Land Rover Discovery 200tdi Series 1 3 door - in need of TLC
2020 Fiat Panda 4x4 Cross Twin Air.
Might be worth checking. The driver's window on my BX became very lazy, particularly in cold weather - I assumed that the the motor was on the way out when in fact the metal channel holding the window in place had corroded and eventually stuck open necessitating replacement.
Its easy to remove the door trims if you have the right drivers, typically the screws aint all the same thread but it isnt hard. Then you will get a picture of what could be wrong. A good clean and lubrication with grease n oil will work wonders unless the base runner into which the rollers fit has corroded away. Mk 1s it was aluminium, Mk 2s, steel, hence the problem. However a replacement in aluminium is still available from Citroen main steeler. If its still working then leave it alone.
Mothman wrote: Mk 1s it was aluminium, Mk 2s, steel.
Is that right? ALl my Mk2s have been steel channels AFAIK, but the low mileage one I was taking bits off the other day had aluminium channels. It was a pampered car that had the air of having been garaged so I'd be surprised if both channels had rotted out and been replaced (although it's possible of course).
1990 BX TZD Estate ('the grey one', 1991 BX TZD Estate ('the white one'), 1982 2CV6 Charleston (in bits), 1972 AZU Serie B (2CV van), 1974 HY72 Camper, 1990 Land Rover 110 diesel LWB, 1957 Mobylette AV76, 1992 Ducati 400SS, 1966 VW Beetle, 1990 Mazda MX-5, 1996 Peugeot 106D, 1974 JCB 2D MkII, 1997 BMW R1100RS, 1987 Suzuki GSX-R1100, 1978 Honda CX500A, 1965 Motobecane Cady, 1988 Honda Bros/Africa Twin, 1963 Massey Ferguson 825, and a lot of bicycles!
I found that the reaon the windows really fail is where the scissors mechanism is pressed together. Eventually the pressing is rubbed away and the two halves separate - at this point you get the noises, and after that the window will suddenly drop into the door as the mechanism comes to bits.
Thats true, the critical point is the connection between the static part and the moving part (where the spring sits). It should be well greased!
If the window has some play, you should replace the mechanism, otherwise you might be suddenly unable to close your window. This happened to me yesterday. When I unscrewed the mechanism from the door to remove it, it fell apart. The outer ring on the moving part that holds the static part in the right position on its pivot point was completely sheared off.
If you replace the mechanism on the driver's door, use one from a rear door (same side as the drivers door!). It is usually much less worn than the drivers mechanism. The only disadvantage is that your window will stop 3 cm earlier on the way down. (The edge is then level with the top of the door lock pin)
Note: The mechanisms of the opposite sided doors are not suitable - they fit, but you can't install the spring and tension the mechanism! (only in the wrong way, as the mechanism is mounted upside down)
Mothman wrote: Mk 1s it was aluminium, Mk 2s, steel.
Is that right? ALl my Mk2s have been steel channels AFAIK, but the low mileage one I was taking bits off the other day had aluminium channels. It was a pampered car that had the air of having been garaged so I'd be surprised if both channels had rotted out and been replaced (although it's possible of course).
How old was your MK 2 with ally channels? I think early MK 2s had the same ones as Mk 1s, possibly the pre facelift models. All my MK 1s have aluminium ones.
Mothman wrote:
How old was your MK 2 with ally channels? I think early MK 2s had the same ones as Mk 1s, possibly the pre facelift models. All my MK 1s have aluminium ones.
Andy
The one with aluminium channels was 1989. But I've previously had a 1987 TRS estate which had steel channels...
1990 BX TZD Estate ('the grey one', 1991 BX TZD Estate ('the white one'), 1982 2CV6 Charleston (in bits), 1972 AZU Serie B (2CV van), 1974 HY72 Camper, 1990 Land Rover 110 diesel LWB, 1957 Mobylette AV76, 1992 Ducati 400SS, 1966 VW Beetle, 1990 Mazda MX-5, 1996 Peugeot 106D, 1974 JCB 2D MkII, 1997 BMW R1100RS, 1987 Suzuki GSX-R1100, 1978 Honda CX500A, 1965 Motobecane Cady, 1988 Honda Bros/Africa Twin, 1963 Massey Ferguson 825, and a lot of bicycles!
