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Rear wheel bearings

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I'm being a bit thick today - can anyone remind me whether you can just buy a rear wheel bearing, or whether it comes already pressed into the hub flange? Have seen various kits advertised on Fleabay but with pics that appear to show front bearing kits....
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Re: Rear wheel bearings

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Yes, you can buy both !

Heres the current cheapest ones listed on E-bay !

Bearing only £16.14

or £17.27 :-

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Complete with hub (Non ABS) £30 :-

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Edit #1 (added) :- £27.52 (not E-bay) :-

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I hope that maybe of help to you !

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Edit #2 (Deletion) :- Bearing Links Deleted for the first two (As their NOT for rear application [Unless its for a 4x4]) !

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Excellent - thanks for that! No need for the hub itself as I have a nice hefty hydraulic press handy. Just fitted new bearings and ball joints to two pairs of front hubs and thought I might as well re-con a pair or two or rear arms as well - already got the pivot bearings, so seems daft not to do the wheel bearings at the same time.
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Also just looked at your second link and looking at the postage, if I buy four and get them sent by courier they work out at £15.02 each, delivered, which seems pretty good to me. Paypal here we come....
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Just to confirm, am I right in thinking the same bearing fits every BX ever built....? Obviously the ABS ones had different hub flanges, but the bearing itself was the same?
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That is correct ! (but NOT including the 4X4's) :wink:
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Ah yes, the 4x4s... did any of the front driveshafts ever last long enough for anyone to wear out a rear wheel bearing...? :lol:
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Sellers have come back to me to double check it's the right one. They've give dimensions of 42mm internal, 82mm external and 36mm width. That's the same as a front one.... Is that right? Sorry for all the questions - PC has died so can't access parts list etc.

If they are the same I'll be miffed - could have got them for a tenner listed as fronts!
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The plot thickens - all the separate rear wheel bearings listed on Ebay are in fact front ones. Obviously someone's got a listing muddled up at some point on some electronic parts catalogue and it's been cross-referenced with all similar part numbers. The seller I'm dealing with has at least four different manufacturers' front kits wrongly listed as rears.
Still all credit to the seller for double-checking and getting back to me.

It appears the rears are only available as complete hubs after all - unless anyone else knows different....?
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Re: Rear wheel bearings

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KevR wrote:Sellers have come back to me to double check it's the right one. They've give dimensions of 42mm internal, 82mm external and 36mm width. That's the same as a front one.... Is that right? Sorry for all the questions - PC has died so can't access parts list etc.

If they are the same I'll be miffed - could have got them for a tenner listed as fronts!
Hi Kev !

They obviously don't know their Ar$e from their elbow :lol:

The front and rear wheel bearings are definitely a different bearing/size for NON 4x4 model's !

I personally haven't got a bearing catalogue BUT I've checked/come off the phone from my 'Usual/friendly' motor factor's and they've unravelled 'The plot' !

All the E-bay idiots listing the bearing's for the rear fitments with the sizes you've quoted are basically for the front/hubs however the same bearing type is the one which is ALSO used on the 4X4's rears, which most of the E-bay sellers are omitting this critical info from their listings :lol:

So the motor factors which I use were telling me that a bearing on its own seems unavailable or not listed but they did quote me the bore size of the hub/bearing assy. as 32mm diameter, therefore it may be the same scenario as the RADIUS arm bearing's ?

Someone will need to press an old assembly apart to find out the Identify markings from it and post it up on the forum for ref. and see if the bearing it available from a bearing supplier ?

Good luck !

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I gather that's the trouble - you can't press the bearing out as the outer race is part of the hub, not a pressed fit....
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Didn't Rmattila put up a selection of pictures a while back? I seem to remember he heated the bearing race in the hub to soften it, then machined it away to fit a new race. It's not a job I've needed to to; only the fronts.
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He did that, yes, but only because he was using the hubs for something else, not to reuse them on the car.
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mat_fenwick wrote:Didn't Rmattila put up a selection of pictures a while back? I seem to remember he heated the bearing race in the hub to soften it, then machined it away to fit a new race. It's not a job I've needed to to; only the fronts.
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I looked at changing just the bearings a while ago and decided against it. I looks quite difficult to get the bearing out.
And as you get new seals and the metal protector flange that sits on the inside end of the hub axle with a new hub thats what I got. A ready assembled new hub assembly.
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