New Member With Little Niggles.

[BX Bandit]

Hi Bandit, If you could test the different ratios that would be helpful. I tested mine at 1000RPM & 2000 RPM & wrote the speed results in each gear on a piece of paper (somewhere. I would have to find it).

One more question though... Were there any difference between the gearboxes in the 1.7 non turbo diesel & the 1.9 non turbo diesel cars? - As mine was automatic to start with I never had a 1.9D manual gearbox to compare against.

I might be interested in the gearbox - depending on the results of the check, your location & the price. Really I wouldn't need a full gearbox, its just the 5th gear I'm looking in to.

Thanks again for the help.

Right, I've only looked at 5th gear and final drive ratios.
1.7 n/a
5th gear ratio:28/37 = 0.757
Final drive ratio: 79/19 = 4.16
Calculated MPH/1000 rpm in 5th gear: 22mph

1.9 n/a
5th gear ratio:28/37 = 0.757
Final drive ratio: 75/19 = 3.95
Calculated MPH/1000 rpm in 5th gear: 23.4mph

1.7 Turbo
5th gear ratio:25/38 = 0.658
Final drive ratio: 75/19 = 3.95
Calculated MPH/1000 rpm in 5th gear: 27mph

Peugeot 306 1.9 TD
5th gear ratio:31/47 = 0.660
Final drive ratio: 70/19 = 3.684
Calculated MPH/1000 rpm in 5th gear: 29mph

I haven't got the hdi ratios to hand but the above will give you 'food for thought'.

[David]

Hi Bandit, I have a standard GTi 4x4 gearbox on it, Which has the same ratios as the 1.7 non turbo gearbox. I have the speeds for the current gearbox, I wrote them down, I'll just have to find the paper with them on.

Thanks again.

[BX Bandit]

Oh right, do you want the ratios or just 5th and final drive?

[David]

Hi Bandit, Thanks for all those. I found my paper with all the speeds written on it, but after reading what you put, they don't all seem to add up. (unless my speedo is out).

I used Km/h on some because it was easier to record rather than in between mph.
1st @ 1000 rpm = 10 km/h, & @ 2000 rpm = 10 mph
2nd @ 1000 rpm = 20 km/h, & @ 2000 rpm = 22 mph
3rd @ 1000 rpm = 30 km/h, & @ 2000 rpm = 30 mph
4th @ 1000 rpm = 40 km/h, & @ 2000 rpm = 40 mph
5th @ 1000 rpm = 30 mph, & @ 2000 rpm = 50 mph

Also looking at what you have put a 306 gear might be too high for my engine to pull.

[David]

Hi again all, I have got some pictures of the brake calipers & the fuel pipe causing problems.
Some of them ain't brilliant, but hopefully you'll be able to see the problem(s).

[David]

More pictures.

[BX Bandit]

The speedo won't be that accurate, you'd be better off using a sat nav. The revometer is that accurate either. I suspect that errors in both gauges combined with human error ( no offence) is sufficient to explain the differences between measured and theoretical values.

Regarding changing your 5th gear, I'd say even a bx td 5th will be too high. I have a set somewhere, you are welcome to try. There must be a useable 5th gear ratio in the be3 range somewhere. Your choice of ratio will depend on at what speed you would normally cruise at and where your peak torque rpm is.

[David]

Hi Bandit, It would be difficult to say. I have never had the BX on the road, & I can't use a sat nav for that very reason. Those results were with the car on blocks, wheels off, in the garage. But I did get a good look at the speedo & rev counter in that arrangement.

When I'm driving down a fast road (in my other car) I normally do about 60, but that's because that is low geared as well & the engine is revving high if I go above that. I would like to be able to do 70 though without the engine screaming.

Otherwise, I'm not sure which gearbox would be slightly lower geared than the TD gearbox.

Thanks again.

[David]

Hi all, Just a quick update, I haven't looked at the above problems in more detail yet, I have had to do some welding behind the front bumper.

However another leak has appeared; One of the rubber boots around the rear suspension cylinder has cracked & is leaking.
I have been to Citroen & they have said no longer produced, So has anyone got any idea where to get one from?
Remember they are different to the 2WD ones as they are shorter on the 4x4.

Thanks again.

[David]

Hi all, Just another quick update,

I have found how to adjust the height, It might be worth keeping a record of for doing it on the 4x4.

The first clamp I found wasn't adjusting it so I found the other clamp on the anti roll bar & adjusted it through that.
As the transfer box is in the way it can't be done underneath, so the RH wheel has to be removed & the hub sat on something (I used bricks), & the track rod end then has to be detached from the hub.

Then you can reach the clamp from the side of the car, just between the detached track rod end & the subframe. (you can get at it with the track rod end in, But only with the car on max height, When it lowers it will trap your hand!).

Has anyone got any ideas where to get a rear suspension boot for the 4x4 from?
As mentioned above Citroen no longer make them!

Thanks again.

[MULLEY]

Is the suspension boot not repairable with some vulcanised rubber as a temporary measure until you can source a replacement? I presume the 4x4 uses the exact same rear strut as any of the hatch's (unless you'rs is an estate)?

[BX Bandit]

He says above Mulley that they are different. I think a repair is your best short term option as Mulley says. Have you a photo?
Try french eBay is probably your best bet

[MULLEY]

Sorry, didn't spot that, so is there a different sized cylinder for the 4x4 or is it just a different sized internal piston & hence the different sized boot? I thought that there were 2 types of rear cylinders only?

[BX Bandit]

Don't know mate, but I'll check on the citroen parts website later on.

[David]

Don't know mate, but I'll check on the citroen parts website later on.

Thanks for that.

Sorry, didn't spot that, so is there a different sized cylinder for the 4x4 or is it just a different sized internal piston & hence the different sized boot? I thought that there were 2 types of rear cylinders only?

The rear cylinder diameter might be the same as the standard hatchback models, However it has a shorter rod going to the suspension arm, so its a different boot. The cylinder its self is only different (as far as I'm aware) because it has a bigger pipe going in to it & the sphere doesn't screw directly on the end like a standard car, it had to be moved so the drive shaft would pass behind it.

I noticed they were different rods when I damaged one when de-rusting everything & tried putting one in off my old axle. I had to have that repaired by a engineering works.

I'm not using the car yet so it'll just be better to look for a new one (or 2).

I didn't think of french Ebay, It might be worth a look if there's no where else that does them.

I'll have to do a write up on the 4x4 conversion when I get a chance.

Thanks again for all the help.