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Post by Stinkwheel » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:52 pm

You know the more i hear about this BX god that is Chris i really wish i could have been around to meet you when you picked up that crappy old red 16v.

I may have been overcome though :-)
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Post by gazpacho andulus » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:10 pm

Sunday early started second time but this afternoon sounded very chesty and had to turn the key about twenty times thought I was gonna flatten it. Took it for a spin without rent down to the Sainsbury's roundabout and it goes flat at about 1500 to 1800 which I hope will bed in. I dont blieve in fixing wot aint really broke ...suck it and see? Chris gG said it might "bed in" so I'm gonna get some dvla rent and run it. I'll keep you up on the news.
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Post by docchevron » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:03 am

hhmm, not sounding overly hopeful mate. :cry:

I've known them before (especially the 1.6) to be quite good at the valves reseating themselves once they've been up and down a few thousand times, but the lack of will to fire up and going flat, coupled with hoarseness suggests some blow by past the valves.....

Maybe the head may have to come off mate....
Headset, bolts, 2-4 valves, head skim, shiming etc, could be looking at a couple of hundred quid...

I assume the plugs / dizzy cap / rotor arm are ok??
I know the fuel pump seems ok, certainly pumps well enough.

Maybe some further investigation is required before condemning the valves...

Sorry dude, maybe not such a cheap and easy fix after all.

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Post by docchevron » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:11 am

Stinkwheel wrote:You know the more i hear about this BX god that is Chris i really wish i could have been around to meet you when you picked up that crappy old red 16v.
I aint anything special mate...

The valver I got from you wasn't inherently awful. It was nice and shiny and the engine felt good, it's just that the back end had rotted away to nothing and gravity was keeping the rear subframe attached to the car. The front subframe had a plate welded over the N/S rear corner but the rot under it hadn't been treated or cut out and was disintegrating.

In different circumstances I'd have fixed it but I needed a runner to replace my bent TD and didn't have time to do the car justice. Although it kept 5 other BX's on the road, and the engine lives on too, and not in a PUG :twisted: .
I've been told by various peeps that the previous owner of the car (before you had it) had alledgedley spent huge sums of money on it, but apart from the exhaust I failed to see where!

Some you win etc.... it lives on in spirit!!

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Post by tim leech » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:52 am

As you know my xantia did a similar thing not long ago and I imagine the engines are similar with it being a 1.8 version of a 8v XU engine, Looking at the head on mine when it came off there was NO WAY it could have righed itself as the valver were proper bent, plus the head was marked and had to be skimmed.

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Post by Stinkwheel » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:58 pm

On the subject of your xantia Tim what did you have to do with it in the end?

I've got the offer of a 1.8i lx 97 R for very very little, cambelt snapped done at least one valve. Im not fussed myself about it but the wife has shown an interest.

Basically is it gonna be a nightmare or was yours relatively easy to sort out?
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Post by gazpacho andulus » Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:44 am

Happy Boxing D Everyone. :cry:
The 16RS hasn't started since last time(10th) and the battery is out and on charge. Rotar and plugs look good suspect a bit of cylinder head damage and as the car only cost me 200 this time last year I can't afford to f*** about with it and still it might not be 100%. Edferretts has threatened to let me have swampy 1.9 TZD :D which needs a tad of weld and a drivers side drive shaft for M.O.t so even though the16RS has a perfect body he might have to go. Anyone want him to play with for nix? Let me know and we can arrange it. 10 mths M.O.T still on as well but no tax.
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Post by tim leech » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:20 am

It was quite easy to fix, i didnt do it but the chap whos did had the head off in just over a hour and abit, yours being a 16v will take that bit more work but will make a nice car when fixed. The head work was only £150 including new valves, stem seals a head skim and rebuilt ready to bolt on.

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Post by tim leech » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:22 am

gazpacho andulus wrote:Happy Boxing D Everyone. :cry:
The 16RS hasn't started since last time(10th) and the battery is out and on charge. Rotar and plugs look good suspect a bit of cylinder head damage and as the car only cost me 200 this time last year I can't afford to f*** about with it and still it might not be 100%. Edferretts has threatened to let me have swampy 1.9 TZD :D which needs a tad of weld and a drivers side drive shaft for M.O.t so even though the16RS has a perfect body he might have to go. Anyone want him to play with for nix? Let me know and we can arrange it. 10 mths M.O.T still on as well but no tax.

MK1 up for granbs, that does come up very often and being a 16 petrol the heads are quit common.

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Post by tom » Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:39 am

Don't tempt me - oh all right then, Auto GTI for sale as well, I feel a hybrid project coming on. Get thee behind me Satan (and push!)
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Post by docchevron » Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:43 pm

Oh dear, sorry to hear that Gaz, it's obviousley going to need some valves. Shame, it's a really nice car!
If I had the time / space I'd rip your arm off for it, bodily it's very good, probably the best Mk1 I've seen for years.

Sorry bud, not such a cheap fix after all......

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