bx 16 TGS Meteor Auto wont start for some time

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Post by mnde » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:23 am

cacaolat wrote:by the way, my engine also cuts out sometimes...for a second only, but rather annoying, could this be related
Under what conditions? Cold engine or hot? What are you doing when it cuts out?

E.g. mine used to cut out and lose all power when "giving it some" overtaking uphill in 5th. Scary on the A3 I can tell you!

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Post by Stewart (oily!) » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:59 am

roscoe wrote:I love diesels :D :D no autochoke, ignition systems, etc - they just go :D
I was just thinking exactly the same thing. only about 45 MPG too
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Post by Doz » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:26 pm

Do I detect an air of smuggness???
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Post by docchevron » Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:36 pm

Well, I get about 45 / 50 MPG out of the TD usually (tuned and modded though mind), I can get more if I'm careful, but ya know, when you've got extra oooomph, you tend to use it...

If I drive the valver gently, or over a long run, I can achieve 42mpg, so there aint a massive difference, and sometimes I can get 99octane petrol for a bit less than Diesel so the difference in consumption can be evened out with the price difference...

Either way, both cars put a smile on my face, so I dont tend to worry too much about consumption. I only check every fill up so that I can tell pretty quickley if something is amiss with the engine..

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Post by cacaolat » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:04 pm

to Marks earlier question:
my Bx cuts out some times when I just wanted to accelerate away...just every now and then....(as an automatic it is really comfy to drive, but not the fastest acceleration)
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Post by mnde » Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:52 pm

Mine used to stutter if I tried to accelerate too fast in town in 2nd/3rd. I'd try what I did: unscrew the black box off the side of the carb, spray all the linkages behind with carb cleaner, re-oil them all and lubricate the choke pull-down drive rod which is at the bottom left of the autochoke chamber. Grab the rod with needle-nose pliers and push it leftwards a couple of times - it should move freely and spring back when you let go. Since I did this simple thing, I've had no cutting out whatsoever under heavy acceleration and the car feels somewhat more powerful. I assume that the sticking drive rod was causing an over-rich mixture for normal operating temperatures.

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Post by cacaolat » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:11 am

Will give it a try...eventually thanks for that
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Post by ellevie » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:15 pm

Cacaolat, here is a recording of what the spark sounds like with the radio tuned to a quiet "off station" spot and the volume turned up.

www.apxe94.dsl.pipex.com/radio_spark.mp3

This was recorded on the medium waveband at 522kHz during daylight (it doesn't work so well after dark due to higher levels of background noise). The first section is with the manual choke not operated to simulate a "no start" situation. You can hear the sparks as clicks at a rate of about 2 per second. The second part is with the choke operated so that the engine will start. When it starts the clicks occur at a rate of about 30 per second.
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Post by cacaolat » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:15 am

:P ellevie, thanks for that. The recording sounds really like a spark. I did not really notice it, but when I tried to listen the car started immediately so I may have missed that. Anyway I have learned something from an expert and I am sure it will be useful next time when the would not start.
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Post by Doz » Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:45 pm

ellevie wrote:Cacaolat, here is a recording of what the spark sounds like with the radio tuned to a quiet "off station" spot and the volume turned up.

www.apxe94.dsl.pipex.com/radio_spark.mp3

This was recorded on the medium waveband at 522kHz during daylight (it doesn't work so well after dark due to higher levels of background noise). The first section is with the manual choke not operated to simulate a "no start" situation. You can hear the sparks as clicks at a rate of about 2 per second. The second part is with the choke operated so that the engine will start. When it starts the clicks occur at a rate of about 30 per second.
That was great ... just like listening to Caroline in the late 80's lol ... very useful tip...
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Post by st gilles » Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:54 pm

I must be going mad .......if anyone had told me that at 50 I'd be tuning in to a broadcast of a Citroen Ignition System...... both working and not working ( or is that the other way around?). Very well done though ellevie very ingenious.
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Post by ellevie » Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:32 pm

Radio Caroline, now that brings back memories. I was a teenager myself in the sixties. :?
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Post by Doz » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:26 pm

ellevie wrote:Radio Caroline, now that brings back memories. I was a teenager myself in the sixties. :?
Still going ... www.radiocaroline.co.uk

I crewed the ship in 1989 and in 2005 ;)
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Post by ellevie » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:39 pm

Nice one ! You must have been there when HMGov boarded and smashed everything up.
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Post by Doz » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:42 am

Nah, several months after that ... things were not in a good way ....
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