Tail Lights

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:56 am

Is there any differance in the Taillight clusters and wiring on a Mark II BX? Figure there must be for the smoked lense type because of the swap over of brake and Foglight but in say a GTI compared to a 16RS?

DLM · Post by **DLM** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:08 am

I've always found all Mk2 hatchback rear lights to be totally interchangeable - unless I've missed something - or I've ended up ignoring the odd "hint" from drivers behind me...

The older-style non-smoked lights do of course make more sense in pairs as common sense says they will be slightly brighter than the smoked ones.

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:31 pm

Depends on the yearmodels.

I have myself experienced that MkI rear lamps does not fit MkII wiring. There is an extra pin in the wiring connectors for MkII rear lamps.
Its a bit strange, as the lamp clusters otherwise looks exactly the same. no "warnings" - execpt the connector wont fit.

I dont know WHEN exactly this change takes place over the model years.

NOTE : this is only true for the saloon rear lamps. The Break rear lamps are the same over the years.

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:56 pm

The problem is I sold a Nearside Rear Tail light from my 1989 BX16RS to a guy who has a BX19GTI. According to him they dont fit the wiring "different plugs, different lampholder assembly".

Does anyone of you with mutliple BXs happen to have a picture of the rear of the light cluster of a NS Tail Light to be able to compare a 89 BX16RS to a BX19GTI year unknown.

tim leech · Post by **tim leech** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:50 pm

[quote="AndersDK"] Depends on the yearmodels.

I have myself experienced that MkI rear lamps does not fit MkII wiring. There is an extra pin in the wiring connectors for MkII rear lamps.
Its a bit strange, as the lamp clusters otherwise looks exactly the same. no "warnings" - execpt the connector wont fit.

I dont know WHEN exactly this change takes place over the model years.

NOTE : this is only true for the saloon rear lamps. The Break rear lamps are the same over the years. [/quote]

Quite right Anders, I trie dto exchange a Mk2 non smoked new rear lamp for one on my Mk1 GT and iyt wouldnt work althought visually they are the same

I have just added some smoked rear lamps to mk Mk1 P1 19TRS, you need the bulb holder aswell but its a straight swap.

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:57 pm

Guys

Can someone help me out on an answer please!

BX19GTI is going to be a MARK II, yes? 1989 BX16RS was a MKII.

So in thory they should fit? What I did notice now is the manufacturers of the lense on the back of the 19TZS is differant from the 16RS ones.

Now that in mind would that affect the plugs of the BX19GTI compantability to these lights?

Anyone got a picture of a None smoked wiring connection on a 19GTI or any other none smoked mark II.

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:46 pm

kiwi wrote:Guys

Can someone help me out on an answer please!

BX19GTI is going to be a MARK II, yes? 1989 BX16RS was a MKII.

So in thory they should fit? What I did notice now is the manufacturers of the lense on the back of the 19TZS is differant from the 16RS ones.

Now that in mind would that affect the plugs of the BX19GTI compantability to these lights?

Anyone got a picture of a None smoked wiring connection on a 19GTI or any other none smoked mark II.

You are right - they should swap no problem at all. No matter BX model variant or the makers marking on the lamp cluster or the looks of the bulb holder. Its the year model ONLY that MAY push you into trouble.
Sorry I messed up the thread ...

DLM · Post by **DLM** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:31 pm

I've very rarely found problems with mixing & matching BX electricals if the rule "MK1 to Mk1" and "Mk2 to Mk2" are observed. If you can find the "standard" pics on this or another website for clearing out the sunroof rear drain pipes then you may see what you need. Don't have any pics to hand as I post from a public access PC.

I can't see why two same-mark cars from the same year should have different connectors: it makes very little sense for any of the parties involved at the time (unless someone's done a post-sale modification). You could probably run some checks on the online BX parts PDFs as a test to see if parts numbers differ.

Even where the "standard" manufacturer for the part of a BX has been bypassed for whatever reason, the connectors are normally unchanged to preserve commonality (e.g. non-modular Jaeger instrument panel when fitted instead of Veglia modular panel: totally different internals but identical connectors).

kiwi · Post by **kiwi** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:32 pm

Thanks for that! general consensus says it should fit unless its a MKI.

ami8i · Post by **ami8i** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:53 pm

Hello,
I'd estimate the BX Break tail light plugs/sockets are the same than BX Sedan Mk1, is this true?
AFAIK all BX Sedan Mk2 rear lights are interchangeable, some Mk2 were also non smoked.

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