Glowplugs on a TZD

Post by **Tim Leech** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:31 am

The green hornet takes over 10 seconds when starting from cold and missfires a bit and chucks a bit of smoke out, its much better when warm but still takes alot longer than I remember. Is it like replacing spark plugs and how much should set cost?

Thanks.

citroen7 · Post by **citroen7** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:47 am

chances are tim that the awkward one behind the pump has never been changed, a simple test is to disconnect the interconnecting wire between the plugs and then get a lenght of heavy duty cable put one end on the posative terminal and then brush the other end over the top of each plug if you get plenty of sparks chances are the plug is good,its not an exact science but does give you an idea.
Dont buy cheap glowplugs they dont last ,the last set i bought was just over £20.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:01 am

Asides the awkward one is it a reasonably easy job?

citroen7 · Post by **citroen7** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:05 am

in a word yes

even theawkward one with the right tools

Post by **Tim Leech** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:08 am

Lol ok will do, thanks again.

CitroXim · Post by **CitroXim** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:36 pm

The right tools include a good cranked 12mm ring spanner, a good 8mm ring spanner and a big lump of Blu-Tak.

With these, as Robin says, a doddle, relatively.

Forget the ratchet glowplug spanner some tool places try to peddle. They're rubbish.

A piece of rag stuffed down behind the injection pump is a good idea as it stops No.4 glowplug making a dash for the warm and cosy space twixt injection pump cradle and the block. The times I've found old glowplugs hiding down there

The utility of the Blu-Tak is obvious; it'll stop you loosing your nuts.

Glowplugs between Turbos and Non-Turbos are different and not interchangable.

Turbo plugs are BERU GN909 whereas the BERU GV636 is for non-turbos only. Use them in a turbo with post-heating and they last about 2 days... You can use turbo plugs in a non-turbo with no worries.

I say this as a certain spares emporium we all know and love don't always appreciate the difference.

Post by **Tim Leech** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:24 pm

Great stuff thanks, thats job to do in a week or so then.

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:39 pm

citrojim wrote: Glowplugs between Turbos and Non-Turbos are different and not interchangable.

Turbo plugs are BERU GN909 whereas the BERU GV636 is for non-turbos only. Use them in a turbo with post-heating and they last about 2 days... You can use turbo plugs in a non-turbo with no worries.
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True on the later 1905 TD cars, but the 1769 TD fitted to the BX never had post-heating, although some advocate using the GV636 plugs anyway to try to gain longer life.

You know Jim, it's high time you got yourself a BX, just so as to aquaint yourself with these little subtleties

DavidRutherford · Post by **DavidRutherford** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:52 pm

Roverman wrote:The green hornet takes over 10 seconds when starting from cold

To do what? 10 seconds of glowplugs, or 10 seconds of cranking?

CitroXim · Post by **CitroXim** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:23 pm

jonathan_dyane wrote: You know Jim, it's high time you got yourself a BX, just so as to aquaint yourself with these little subtleties

Either that Johnathan or just confine my ramblings to non-BX areas of this fair forum or simply speak in generalities.

I ran ito the GV636 incompatibility problem in my 2.1TD. That one post-heats for ever, or so it seems and wrecked a set of GV636s in very short order

After two days, their resistance still looked about right but they would not glow when connected across a battery.

Alas, the aquisition of a BX is out of the question in the foreseeable as I already have a full and possibly expanding stable of Xants.

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:29 pm

citrojim wrote:
jonathan_dyane wrote: You know Jim, it's high time you got yourself a BX, just so as to aquaint yourself with these little subtleties
Either that Johnathan or just confine my ramblings to non-BX areas of this fair forum or simply speak in generalities.
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Sorry if that sounded like a telling off, it wasn't intended to be

But I do think you *need* at least one BX tho...

CitroXim · Post by **CitroXim** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:43 pm

jonathan_dyane wrote: Sorry if that sounded like a telling off, it wasn't intended to be

I know Johnathan

but you do have a point all the same!

jonathan_dyane wrote: But I do think you *need* at least one BX tho...

I'm regularly very tempted to be honest. Something like the Green Hornet is even more tempting for me. The thought has crossed my mind many times to send on one my Xants and replace it with a BX...

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:45 pm

jonathan_dyane wrote:But I do think you *need* at least one BX tho...

Agreed. I'd even go one step further and suggest that you rip the engine out of one of the Xantias and stick it in a BX. Really the only sensible thing to do Jim...

(Runs away and hides).

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:10 pm

citrojim wrote:
jonathan_dyane wrote: But I do think you *need* at least one BX tho...
I'm regularly very tempted to be honest. Something like the Green Hornet is even more tempting for me. The thought has crossed my mind many times to send on one my Xants and replace it with a BX...

You're weakening

Post by **Tim Leech** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:27 am

citrojim wrote:
jonathan_dyane wrote: Sorry if that sounded like a telling off, it wasn't intended to be
I know Johnathan but you do have a point all the same!

jonathan_dyane wrote: But I do think you *need* at least one BX tho...
I'm regularly very tempted to be honest. Something like the Green Hornet is even more tempting for me. The thought has crossed my mind many times to send on one my Xants and replace it with a BX...

You can have a happy life owning both, I do!

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