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BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jeremyC5 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:32 pm

BX19 TRS Estate, Auto, Towbar, etc, etc.

Since i can't and don't want all the hassle of uploading pictures here, if you are interested, it's currently on ebay.

It's pre-restoration, but runs ok, lifts fine.
It's almost rustless.
80K miles, petrol.
One owner before me, i have the original Bill of Sale.
Paintwork is a bit tatty, but doable, i'm sure, an easy colour i would think.
Needs some steering gaiters, i can see a leak underneath, etc, etc, other things to do, i'm sure!!
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by Way2go » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:04 pm

As I understand it, you are selling a car which does not have a valid registration number. What are the consequential legal & cost implications of this to a purchaser looking for a road legal car? :?
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jamescarruthers » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:18 pm

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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jamescarruthers » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:25 pm

Way2go wrote:As I understand it, you are selling a car which does not have a valid registration number. What are the consequential legal & cost implications of this to a purchaser looking for a road legal car? :?
Is it not just a technicality he is pointing out that the number can't be put on another car?

Quote from the advert:
"The Registration number IS the orignal since I have the Original Bill of Sale here.

Since it was removed and replaced at a later date, it is now not transferable."
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jeremyC5 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:03 pm

Way to Go....
I don't know what you base your assertion upon, but i have the registration document from the dvla with the registration clearly displayed, coincidentally being the same one as on the car !!!
If it wasn't valid, surely they wouldn't have issued me with the document.
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by Way2go » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:19 am

I'm not asserting anything, just asking what procedure/money is involved in putting the car back on the road since you say "Since it was removed and replaced at a later date, it is now not transferable." in your ad.
Straightforward clarification was all that was asked.
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jeremyC5 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:56 am

Way to go:
you asserted that i am selling a car without a valid registration number, which is not true.
And you then asserted, based on your false accusation, that this would have implications and costs for a new owner.
Someone was going to contact me, but you have obviously scared him off due to your misinformation.
I thought people here were for encouraging people to keep BXs on the road, you have put doubt in peoples minds about the ligitimacy of my car and put them off.... well done !!!
... No apology yet ????
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by Way2go » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:27 pm

You flagged an issue over the registration in your Ebay ad. If there wasn't an issue why include anything about it in the advert as it not something that others include in their write-ups. Don't try and blame others for your own errors.
That's it as far as I'm concerned and I wouldn't want to buy off someone as belligerant as you!
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:51 pm

Seriously Way2Go?

The ad states that the original reg was replaced with a private plate years ago and the car now has it's original back on. The advert just points out a funny technicality that the DVLA won't let it's registration number be removed again.

Granted, you'd probably not want to remove that fairly generic reg from the BX to something else, but it just a bit of extra information in the advert that you took the wrong way, and not an error.

From that you stated, as far as you could see, the car didn't have a valid registration number and was somehow dodgy or likely to cost the new owner some hidden cost. It is fine to seek clarification on that but your post was basically a statement, casting aspersions on this sale.

Misunderstandings happen and and easy on forums with all the typing this not meeting face to face. I think you owe JeremyC5 an apology and the mods should just delete this whole mess and leave the original advert up. Hopefully this BX will find a good home.

Here is the advert on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 70&alt=web

For what it is worth, I have met JeremyC5 two or three times and his non-belligerence was apparent then just as his conduct in this thread is. I have sold him a BX and would happily buy one back of him.
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by really? » Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:40 am

Have also dealt with JeremyC5. He sold me a bonnet for £10 to replace my cracked one after somebody had obviously tried to close it with something underneath.

Found him very helpful and honest and would have no hesitation in dealing with him again and would recommend him.

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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by mat_fenwick » Sat Jun 04, 2016 9:54 pm

From what I can see a question was asked from the point of view of W2G's *understanding* of the situation. I don't see any assertion that the registration was not valid, so surely no-one could have been seriously put off by that?

James has summed up the situation well IMO, which I think is all that was originally being asked:
jamescarruthers wrote:The ad states that the original reg was replaced with a private plate years ago and the car now has it's original back on. The advert just points out a funny technicality that the DVLA won't let it's registration number be removed again.
As has been pointed out, it's easy to misunderstand the written word and I'm sure had this been a conversation in a pub or at a CCC meet in a field, the meanings would have been interpreted more easily. I hope that no-one is put off buying the car in the future - in my view the only reason for rejecting the car on this basis is if you wanted it purely for the registration number.

FWIW, I've sold cars which have had registration numbers re-issued, and it never even crossed my mind to mention it!
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Re: BX19 TRS Estate Auto for sale

Post by jeremyC5 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 1:18 am

Thanks matt, really and james,

Since, after having a better look around the car, i've decided it is so "rust free", i've decided that i will keep it and renovate it myself.

It needs so little doing to it, it would be a shame to let it go through the auction.
It has the original reg number, "stuck to the car"!!, so will not be scrapped just for that.

Hopefully i will see you in it at the next rally, whenever that is..

Cheers everyone.... misunderstandings occur.... no worries!!!
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