Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

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Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by vulgalour » Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:30 pm

It's that silver one and it's up for offers.
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by rutter123 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:37 pm

I want and have been after one for 20 years.
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by rutter123 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:23 pm

Anyone know the score bringing it over from Ireland?
Info on web for driving cars over but nothing on bringing old non runners, scrappers, barn finds etc on a trailer
Is there duty, paperwork? Or any other official stuff needed?
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by xantia_v6 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:51 am

If it comes with EU registration papers (even if expired), it should be pretty much a matter of filling out some forms and paying the road tax. There is no duty or VAT to be paid if it has previously had VAT paid in any EU country (which normally happens at first registration). If it has no papers, it becomes more difficult, but not impossible. On a vehicle of that age any import duties would be peppercorn anyway.

Make sure you get a receipt for purchase, just in case.

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Post by rutter123 » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:43 pm

Can I pay the road tax if for example the car doesn't have a current mot or the Ireland equivalent?
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by jamescarruthers » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:17 pm

If it is on Irish plates with a current NCT (I think that is the Eire equivalent to our MOT) you should be able to insure it in the UK using the chassis number. Try one of the more sensible classic car companies-- I quite like Footman James as you can have a conversation with someone.

Tax wise, I'd have thought that a foreign vehicle isn't liable for UK road tax at all. You are probably supposed to be fully legal in the car's home country and maybe the seller can help you with that little detail.

If it's any help, I recently had conversations with the DVLA about changing my car back to its original plates. They were surprisingly helpful on the phone with my questions and everything was sorted with a few letters. This is a different situation to what you have but yours is probably more straightforward.

Good luck to you and I hope you get to bring this over here. It sounds like you really want this van BX!
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by xantia_v6 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:12 am

If you are a UK resident, you can't (strictly speaking) legally drive it at all in the UK while it is on foreign plates, regardless of tax, insurance or whatever. The policing of this is not consistent, but there have historically been cases of cars confiscated and crushed. The chances of getting caught and prosecuted on a delivery trip are low.

If you are not a UK resident, you can drive a vehicle on foreign plates for up to 6 months, so long as it would be completely legal to do so in its home country.

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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by rutter123 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:41 pm

I'm weighing up the costs and its spiralling out of control, the ferry crossing alone with a van and trailer is quite a lot more than I thought plus fuel and I'm sure other expenses will be involved somewhere along the line. As much as I want it I don't think its a viable option sadly. I'm looking at other options maybe Shipleys?
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Post by jamescarruthers » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:15 pm

Foot passenger rate with your other BX plates in your bag is much cheaper!
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by vulgalour » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:42 am

I recall when my housemate bought a car a few years ago from Ireland (which he still has) the buyer actually drove it over and caught a plane back home, with my housemate paying the costs. Bit risky, since it was a total stranger, but it all worked out okay in the end and was *lots* cheaper than if he'd attempted to collect it himself.

Shipley can be good for long distance as can hiring a flatbed truck when it comes to cost saving. We hired a local flatbed to collect my BX and even with flat suspension got it on, though I'd recommend a couple of bits of wood are taken with you to help if need be.

Good luck finding a solution, it sounds like you've the enthusiasm it needs.

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Post by rutter123 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:01 pm

jamescarruthers wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:15 pm
Foot passenger rate with your other BX plates in your bag is much cheaper!

A risky strategy but an option.
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by rutter123 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:26 pm

So if I for example drive over with a trailer, and accidentally slip some UK bx plates on it, wots the chances?
Or consequences?
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by vulgalour » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:06 am

If you get caught, it's driving without insurance, and that's 6 points on your license. They might stick you with a lack of MoT and Tax too.

Day insurance can be quite affordable, though I'm not sure how it applies to imports. It's certainly been useful for me when I've wanted to drive a car one way home that's been otherwise legal but which I didn't want to have to put on my policy or take out a whole policy for. Usually about £25 a go.

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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by jamescarruthers » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:30 am

Remember that you cannot tax a car with day insurance. Not applicable to an Irish car which can't get UK road tax
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Re: Citroen BX 1.9 VAN - Mayo, Ireland

Post by xantia_v6 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:21 pm

Softening, a little what I said earlier, if the car has NCT (or perhaps a booked MOT) and insurance and proof that it is a purchase delivery trip, you should be able to talk your way out of trouble.