BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Buy or sell parts etc. Please put 'Wanted' in the title if it is a request for parts.
mac1776
New Member
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:24 pm
Location: Reading
My Cars: Bx 16v, Riley Elf, Volvo V60 D5, Clio 200 Sport

BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by mac1776 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:27 pm

Hi All,
My current ex metal fuel lines have completely rooted out, does anyone have a spare set for sale please?
I can get new ones from Chevronics but as the War Dept is already doing her crust about having the car in the front garden I am limited to how much cash I can squirrel away to get her up and running :?
Thank you in advance
Regards
Mac

User avatar
Vanny
Merseyside resident
Merseyside resident
Posts: 3429
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 11:48 pm
Location: BX Pub
My Cars: BX 16v Ph2
x 11

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by Vanny » Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:39 pm

http://www.chevronics.co.uk/product/lar ... l-pipe-bx/

Chevronics, £60ish plus postage for the set is about the same as I last paid at the dealer. Do you really want the bother of fitting used ones only to find they fail again? Maybe just do the supply line while you get the car going?

mac1776
New Member
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:24 pm
Location: Reading
My Cars: Bx 16v, Riley Elf, Volvo V60 D5, Clio 200 Sport

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by mac1776 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:10 pm

Good call, I was trying to get the old girl going with the minimum of outlay initially.
Thanks again

User avatar
Jaba
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1372
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:54 am
Location: Usually in the garage
x 12

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by Jaba » Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:12 pm

TIP: I found the metal supply pipe is quite difficult to fit at the tank end. If you dont fit it far enough into the hose from the tank then it protrudes down below the sill and does not look right.
I ended up shortening the metal pipe a bit to get it to sit where it should be.
I also spray painted the pipe before fitting to give it protection from the weather.
The Joy of BX with just one Citroën to my name now. Will I sing Bye Bye to my GTI or will it be Till death us do part.

User avatar
Vanny
Merseyside resident
Merseyside resident
Posts: 3429
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 11:48 pm
Location: BX Pub
My Cars: BX 16v Ph2
x 11

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by Vanny » Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:19 pm

Jaba wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:12 pm
I ended up shortening the metal pipe a bit to get it to sit where it should be.
I also spray painted the pipe before fitting to give it protection from the weather.


Ditto, although I didnt trim until about 3 years after fitting

mac1776
New Member
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:24 pm
Location: Reading
My Cars: Bx 16v, Riley Elf, Volvo V60 D5, Clio 200 Sport

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by mac1776 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:22 pm

Brilliant tips thanks, I was trying to be a bit POSBEE just to confirm if she is actually sound rather than throwing lots of money at it, once I get the old girl running I will deffo do a proper job but not looking at a minter just solid and relable :)

womble3go
Confirmed BX'er
Posts: 52
Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:24 pm
x 1

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by womble3go » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:09 pm

I ve replaced mine with copper pipes when they needed changing but mines a diesel they are 10mm and 8mm which can easy be shaped and don't rot.
Got them from a pumpers supplyer and also caravan supply will do them.

mac1776
New Member
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:24 pm
Location: Reading
My Cars: Bx 16v, Riley Elf, Volvo V60 D5, Clio 200 Sport

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by mac1776 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:34 pm

Spot on, thank you, checked over and cleaned the earth points and the electrical connections this afternoon, once the tubing arrives I will check and confirm the fuel system is functioning and then might give it a go at a start up, fingers crossed 🤪🤪

KevR
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1767
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:46 pm
Location: Normandy
My Cars: It's all in my signature
x 4

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by KevR » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:33 pm

Plus one for copper plumbing pipe – mine's been running on that for years!
1990 BX TZD Estate ('the grey one', 1991 BX TZD Estate ('the white one'), 1982 2CV6 Charleston (in bits), 1972 AZU Serie B (2CV van), 1974 HY72 Camper, 1990 Land Rover 110 diesel LWB, 1957 Mobylette AV76, 1992 Ducati 400SS, 1966 VW Beetle, 1990 Mazda MX-5, 1996 Peugeot 106D, 1974 JCB 2D MkII, 1997 BMW R1100RS, 1987 Suzuki GSX-R1100, 1978 Honda CX500A, 1965 Motobecane Cady, 1988 Honda Bros/Africa Twin, 1963 Massey Ferguson 825, and a lot of bicycles!

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6191
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by Kitch » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:00 pm

I see your copper, and raise you Kunifer.

KevR
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1767
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:46 pm
Location: Normandy
My Cars: It's all in my signature
x 4

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by KevR » Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:49 pm

Kitch wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:00 pm
I see your copper, and raise you Kunifer.


A bit overkill for fuel line though. And is it even available in 8mm and 10mm...?
Actually, if I was doing it again and didn't already have some copper in stock, I'd use nylon pipe.
1990 BX TZD Estate ('the grey one', 1991 BX TZD Estate ('the white one'), 1982 2CV6 Charleston (in bits), 1972 AZU Serie B (2CV van), 1974 HY72 Camper, 1990 Land Rover 110 diesel LWB, 1957 Mobylette AV76, 1992 Ducati 400SS, 1966 VW Beetle, 1990 Mazda MX-5, 1996 Peugeot 106D, 1974 JCB 2D MkII, 1997 BMW R1100RS, 1987 Suzuki GSX-R1100, 1978 Honda CX500A, 1965 Motobecane Cady, 1988 Honda Bros/Africa Twin, 1963 Massey Ferguson 825, and a lot of bicycles!

User avatar
jamescarruthers
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 414
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:11 pm
Location: Cambridge
x 7

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by jamescarruthers » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:56 pm

KevR wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:49 pm
Kitch wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:00 pm
I see your copper, and raise you Kunifer.


A bit overkill for fuel line though. And is it even available in 8mm and 10mm...?
Actually, if I was doing it again and didn't already have some copper in stock, I'd use nylon pipe.


I proudly showed the boat safety certificate inspector a Webasto I'd beautifully plumbed in with nylon pipe, as sold perfectly legally by a Webasto supplier for lorries. He failed me as it wasn't fire proof. I could see his point once he explained. If there was a fire in the engine bay, the pipes wouldn't last five minutes and you can guess the rest. He insisted on a certain standard (maybe BS.... but could have been another) which I have forgotten.

There is of course fire resistant fuel hose which you can get which combines the ease of installation of Kev's nylon pipe idea and satisfies fire safety concerns also like a metal pipe.
1987 Volvo 480 ES
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous BX's:
A966 XRL -- BX 16 TRS
H767 BEG -- BX 14 TGE
B316 AMP -- BX 14 E

KevR
1K Away
1K Away
Posts: 1767
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:46 pm
Location: Normandy
My Cars: It's all in my signature
x 4

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by KevR » Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:25 pm

But... The solid pipe (whatever it's made from) doesn't go into the engine bay. It is joined to the system by lovely, flammable rubber (ok, Synthetic rubber but still flammable) pipe. And that's much closer to any source of ignition or heat than the soild bits are.
Anyway, the first thing that happens when nylon pipe gets a bit too hot for comfort is it shrinks, so in the event it gets too hot, it wil at least temporarily starve the engine/fire rather than pour fuel on the flames...
1990 BX TZD Estate ('the grey one', 1991 BX TZD Estate ('the white one'), 1982 2CV6 Charleston (in bits), 1972 AZU Serie B (2CV van), 1974 HY72 Camper, 1990 Land Rover 110 diesel LWB, 1957 Mobylette AV76, 1992 Ducati 400SS, 1966 VW Beetle, 1990 Mazda MX-5, 1996 Peugeot 106D, 1974 JCB 2D MkII, 1997 BMW R1100RS, 1987 Suzuki GSX-R1100, 1978 Honda CX500A, 1965 Motobecane Cady, 1988 Honda Bros/Africa Twin, 1963 Massey Ferguson 825, and a lot of bicycles!

User avatar
jamescarruthers
BXpert
BXpert
Posts: 414
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:11 pm
Location: Cambridge
x 7

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by jamescarruthers » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:19 am

Ah okay, I thought this was in the engine bay for some reason.

The hoses in the engine bay might well be fire resistant if that's what they installed new. Of course, standards might have been different back then.

Just had a look at asap-supplies.com and the standard of hose I had to use was likely ISO7840.
https://www.asap-supplies.com/fuel-systems/fuel-hose

I like your idea is self sealing fuel pipes in a fire! :-) You could charge extra for this feature!
Last edited by jamescarruthers on Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
1987 Volvo 480 ES
1992 Renault Master Mk. 1. Machzone Chateau camper. 2.0 LPG

Previous BX's:
A966 XRL -- BX 16 TRS
H767 BEG -- BX 14 TGE
B316 AMP -- BX 14 E

User avatar
Kitch
Over 2k
Posts: 6191
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:36 pm
Location: Fareham, Hants
x 48

Re: BX metal fuel line wanted please (BX 16v mk1)

Post by Kitch » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:59 am

KevR wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:49 pm
Kitch wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:00 pm
I see your copper, and raise you Kunifer.


A bit overkill for fuel line though. And is it even available in 8mm and 10mm...?
Actually, if I was doing it again and didn't already have some copper in stock, I'd use nylon pipe.


Hardly overkill. It's not much more expensive than copper (like a couple of quid), and doesn't corrode as quickly or work-harden as much. I buy it in 8mm lengths all the time, as we plumb the TVRs out in it.