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I think CAT is refering to Category, you get varying degrees of write off; Category A,B, C, D etc. passing a VIC does not make the write off go away it just confirms that the car is now fit for the road again. Despite passing a VIC for reasons un-beknown to me many insurance companies simply won't entertain insuring the cars again and those that do want a higher premium.
I asked my brother who works for the Pru / Churchill about why they don't like re-insuring write offs and he seams to think they don't like to encourage the repair of vehicles they have paid out 'full Value' on and therefore should as far as they are concerned not be put back on the road. This doesn't stop some (not all) insurance companies selling the salvage on to firms who then resell them as damage repairables, however more and more companies now insist the vehicle identity plates and chassis no.s are now returned to them hoping the cars will only be recycled.
I asked my brother who works for the Pru / Churchill about why they don't like re-insuring write offs and he seams to think they don't like to encourage the repair of vehicles they have paid out 'full Value' on and therefore should as far as they are concerned not be put back on the road. This doesn't stop some (not all) insurance companies selling the salvage on to firms who then resell them as damage repairables, however more and more companies now insist the vehicle identity plates and chassis no.s are now returned to them hoping the cars will only be recycled.
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Now I understand!
Thank you for explaining CAT. I can only say that I have had no problems getting insurance at any time.
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You will only struggle on insurance if its cat A or B.GaianB wrote:Thank you for explaining CAT. I can only say that I have had no problems getting insurance at any time.
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What a load of...Roverman wrote:You will only struggle on insurance if its cat A or B.GaianB wrote:Thank you for explaining CAT. I can only say that I have had no problems getting insurance at any time.
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Not true, All write offs will incur increased premiums.
And, you will NEVER get insurance on Cat A or B, simply because Cat A vehicles MUST BE COMPLETELY DESTROYED, no parts may be used or sold. These include any car that involved a fatally injured passenger/driver.
Cat B will never return to the road either, but parts my be reused. The shell MUST be crushed.
Cat C, not economically repairable. VIC required for return to road.
Cat D, economically repairable, but insurer has decided against repairing. VIC not normally required.
Cat F, Fire damaged vehicles. Will be linked to a category above.
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I seem to remember that there is a particular nasty attached to this in that fire damaged rubber parts, 'O' rings etc can form Hydrofluoric acid on their surfaces. This is extremely hazardous if touched and gives long term problems, possibly terminal!JayW wrote: Cat F, Fire damaged vehicles. Will be linked to a category above.
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Take a breath mate! cat a and b are scrap, weve just repaired my mums Rover 25 after it was cat C'eed when they parked it in the back of some Ford. Apyout after some argy bargy was £2300, but the repairs quote was £4500! I bought the salvage for £200 which was driveable if a bit battered, Fixed it at work for £1500 using a fine but used bonnet and bumper and it looks as good as new. we will have to do a VIC check if we sell it, but passed its MOT no problem.JayW wrote:What a load of...Roverman wrote:You will only struggle on insurance if its cat A or B.GaianB wrote:Thank you for explaining CAT. I can only say that I have had no problems getting insurance at any time.
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Not true, All write offs will incur increased premiums.
And, you will NEVER get insurance on Cat A or B, simply because Cat A vehicles MUST BE COMPLETELY DESTROYED, no parts may be used or sold. These include any car that involved a fatally injured passenger/driver.
Cat B will never return to the road either, but parts my be reused. The shell MUST be crushed.
Cat C, not economically repairable. VIC required for return to road.
Cat D, economically repairable, but insured has decided against repairing. VIC not normally required.
Cat F, Fire damaged vehicles. Will be linked to a category above.
They have continued with the same broker, but have protected no claims so hasnt made any different to the premium at all. But if it gets bumped again and written off they will probably get about £5 for it!
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That's probably right but if he'd managed to hang on to the V5 and remembers without official reminders to re-tax (at the Post-Office) when due then I guess it slips through the cracks.docchevron wrote:Surely you'd need to VIC test it before it returned to the road, not when you sell it?
However with the computer systems of today it now may flag up and it would probably not be easy to SORN it either if needed.
Directgov wrote:Insurers should notify the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) of all cars ‘written off’ within salvage categories A, B or C. This notification will set a ‘VIC marker’ against the DVLA vehicle record. While a VIC marker remains set, DVLA won’t issue a registration certificate V5C, or vehicle licence reminder V11.
The VIC marker will only be removed when the car passes a VIC.
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If they will not issue RFL reminders until it has a VIC then surely they are saying you should have the VIC done before putting it back on the road?Roverman wrote:Only needs a VIC check if and when you sell it on.
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Can only speak for us Kevan, we had a reminder for the Rover 2 months after the write off, we taxed it at the local PO as usual with no problems.Defender110 wrote:If they will not issue RFL reminders until it has a VIC then surely they are saying you should have the VIC done before putting it back on the road?Roverman wrote:Only needs a VIC check if and when you sell it on.
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