O/S drive shaft intermediate Bearing wanted

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O/S drive shaft intermediate Bearing wanted

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Hi, the intermediate bearing on the drive shaft is very noisy on my 17TZD Turbo estate, so I think I have to bite the bullet and fix it.

I have looked up a few threads, but not been able to find the part number yet, but I see that at one time GSF did the entire shaft for not an unreasonable amount, although I suspect it will have gone up now if still available.

Before I start shopping around I thought I would ask here in case anyone has a spare bearing, or even a good, complete O/S drive shaft I could purchase?

Cheers, Simon
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here is price, part No. and dimentions from service citroen for diesel fuel except ABS the bearing is the same for ABS cars as well,


Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
0000324703 BEARING 20.60 GBP 24.72 GBP 24.72 GBP

this bearing is not easy to remove as it is quite a way down the shaft


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Simon - Could you explain what are symptoms then of a worn intermediate bearing? Steve
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Many thanks Malcolm, if nothing else comes along I will have to go down the route of changing the bearing on my current shaft.

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The symptoms I have is a rough bearing/grumbling sound from near the pedal assembly area, that tends to increase with speed and seems worse when taking a left hand bend. It is easy to ignore, but once your ear has tuned in to it, you realise that it is not a noise that should be present....
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Post by Brian »

Hi Simon,

I very much doubt it would be the drive shaft inter bearing.
As the rumble changes when turning left, more likely to be a wheel bearing.

They are quite difficult to detect which side is causing the problem, as wheel bearing noise does travel over the car.

Even when jacked up, disk pads released, and the wheel is turned,
because the load is on the non worn part of the bearing.

But worth a try, you may be able to detect.

Good luck
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Does anyone know if the O/S driveshaft is the same for a 17 TZD Turbo as for the non-turbo, 1.9 etc?

Thanks, Simon
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No, they are different unfortunately. 4 different types for the BE gearbox cars - turbo diesels and the 16v had a larger diameter driveshaft to cope with the torque, the rest are identical apart from ABS and non ABS versions.
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OK, thanks Matt, I was hoping for a bargain... £27 new on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

Still, it may be a wheel bearing anyway and not the intermediate one anway!

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mat_fenwick wrote:No, they are different unfortunately. 4 different types for the BE gearbox cars - turbo diesels and the 16v had a larger diameter driveshaft to cope with the torque, the rest are identical apart from ABS and non ABS versions.
Can 8V or 16V driveshafts be temporarily used in place of the turbo diesel ones?

I have a severe noise in mine and want to replace it or repair it - I bought a pair of non ABS joints as I had been told they were the same.

On stripping it last night, it appears that it is a silly one piece combo with the outer joint non removable from the driveshaft.

I assume the 8V is the traditional type of driveshaft with a splined removable joint.

Would 1.9 petrol 8V shafts and joints fit my BE gearbox and hubs while I send my diesel ones off for rebuilding? (not factoring in the 8V driveshaft strength as they will only be temporary)

Cheers for any help.
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16v and turbo diesel ones are the same. You can use a shaft from an 8v model as a temporary solution (and probably permanently if you're prepared for the slight extra risk of failure) as the hub and gearbox splines are the same.

Strange what you have found with the one piece shaft - would suggest that this is a non standard pattern part.
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Post by kk-kolonel »

Cheers heaps for that..

Will swap over and chuck up some pics to show - looks very factory - but who knows with cheap chinese remade parts....

Cheers again. (apolgies for thread hi-jack)
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Post by Gibbo2286 »

If you have the bearing off read the numbers on the rim and ask any bearing specialist to match it.

My local guy did so and charged me a tenner for the bearing which he already had in stock.

http://www.rwbearings.co.uk/
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Post by Oilyspanner »

I have bought these bearings by the reference number as well, you just need to grind off the steel ring to fit them.
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Do they simply slide on, or would you need to press them on?
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Vanny wrote:Do they simply slide on, or would you need to press them on?
I used a piece of pipe to drift the bearing into place, pretty straightforward really.
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