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Front Subframe

Post by sleepy0905 » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:42 pm

Right guys is anyone in need of a front subframe i have one here but have run out of storage space so if anyone wants it i can take it to the CCC meet on saturday it came off a 1991 BX Diesel TGD :D
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Post by sleepy0905 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:30 pm

Right folks if no one wants it i shall get shut as i am having a clearout ready for the Conservatory going up
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Post by tim leech » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:44 pm

Do they fit all bxes sleepy or are they different

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Post by sleepy0905 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:46 pm

as far as i know they are all the same it is only the MK1`s which are different.
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Post by tim leech » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:48 pm

If its rust free mate and not been welded count me in for it! My 16v has been welded up before and doesnt look fanstastic!

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Post by sleepy0905 » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:50 pm

This one is rust free but does have a little welding round one of its rear mounts but it is solid with no rot anywhere. I can give it a clean for you it has already been pressure washed inside and out and it isnt bent or destorted.
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Post by Vanny » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:53 pm

the 1.4 and 4x4 DEFFINATELY have a different subframe!


Turbo diesel should be the same as the 16v, but you never know with these strange french car molesters!

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Post by AndersDK » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:48 pm

Vanny wrote:the 1.4 and 4x4 DEFFINATELY have a different subframe!


Turbo diesel should be the same as the 16v, but you never know with these strange french car molesters!
The old BX14 with the Visa (150) engine that is.
The later BX14 with the AX (TU3) engine shares the same type front subframe as the rest of the BX range over the years - only exception as vanny points out : the 4x4.
There is no special subframe on the 16V or turbodiesel.
Upto approx '85 the lower control arm mounting bolt (that long one with a nut each end) had a diameter of 14mm. These were changed to 16mm diameter. The hole diameter in the subframe and control arm bushes were changed accordingly.
Note that the lower control arms are the same - its just the rubber bushes that changed bolt diameter.
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Post by Vanny » Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:28 pm

AndersDK wrote: Note that the lower control arms are the same - its just the rubber bushes that changed bolt diameter.

How bloody bored where the Citroen techs on that day?


How does one tell the difference between the older and later 1.4 engines? Mrmrwray had the 1.4 engine in a J-reg St Tropez, and the exhuast came up over the front subframe then down under the engine to the front of the block, it was where the exhaust was between the subframe and engine that held the major difference, ARB also has a big bend in the middle too.

I had thought that was the later TU engine (looks the same as the 205 XS and AX engines), but maybe it was the earlier? I dont really know what the two look like!

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Post by AndersDK » Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:43 pm

Vanny wrote:How does one tell the difference between the older and later 1.4 engines?
If you dont know the difference between the type 150 and the TU3 14 engine - then you dont need to bother.
The difference is about the same as between a V6 and a straight 4.
If you can miss that you can miss anything - which I certainly believe you do now & then young man :?
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Post by jeremy » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:05 pm

the two 1.4's are entirely different - chain driven cam and gearbox in the sump like a Mini - except that this one worked.

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Post by Vanny » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:00 am

well i guess i've never seen the type 150 then :D

the engine in matts car had what looked like a standard BE1 gearbox so i guess thats a TU! Can't say ive seen anything else in any other car! I wasn't sure if they would be massively different or not, the XUD isnt too far away from the HDi engine, figured these would be the same!


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