bx gti turbo diesel breaking

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Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:23 pm

Citroen BX GTI Turbo Diesel?

Presumably some sort of home made hybrid?

Post by **docchevron** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:38 pm

Or just a TZD with a tailgate thats been changed at some point?

Or someone who likes sticking badges on things??

Cheers
Chris G

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:44 pm

docchevron1472 wrote:Or just a TZD with a tailgate thats been changed at some point?

Or someone who likes sticking badges on things??

Or a diesel with "Go Faster" Stripes?

cavmad · Post by **cavmad** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:46 pm

Almost certainly a TZD methinks. I`ve seen quite a few advertised as being a `GTi with turbo diesel engine`, which in some respects I suppose they sort of are really!

Post by **docchevron** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:47 pm

Almost certainly. GTD would be a better description I think....

I need to get out more....

Cheers
Chris G

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:58 pm

cavmad wrote:Almost certainly a TZD methinks. I`ve seen quite a few advertised as being a `GTi with turbo diesel engine`, which in some respects I suppose they sort of are really!

What mainly defines a GTi seems to have been missed, it's not the Toybox but the responsiveness and performance of the engine which is worlds above the diesel.

Post by **docchevron** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:10 pm

Way2go wrote: it's not the Toybox but the responsiveness and performance of the engine which is worlds above the diesel.

You should have a go in my TD dude! It's the devil in a red dress!

Cheers
Chris G

cavmad · Post by **cavmad** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:11 pm

To be fair Way2go the TZD`s are very responsive machines. Agree they`re not in the GTi bracket but still suprisingly good.

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:23 pm

I'm not knocking the TZD and certainly would consider one as an estate if a good one came up but was just commenting on the "feel" of the GTi Petrol.
Near me there are traffic lights followed by a short straight and then a narrow long bridge. If you get a slow driving plonker in front as you go through the lights, you may be stuck behind him for a mile or so due to oncoming traffic. This initial short bit is usually the best chance and it still gives both shock & pleasure as the auto kicksdown into 2nd and rockets around the impediment in front and completes the manoevre before the bridge.

cavmad · Post by **cavmad** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:32 pm

Way2go wrote:around the impediment in front and completes the manoevre before the bridge.

Is that a posh word for d*ckhead?

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:21 pm

Completely interchangeable!

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:32 pm

Ive got both, they are quite different to drive. The Gti is certainly a lot quicker, but the Tzd once the turbo is spinning does go rather well. The trouble with non-common rail old diesels, is turbo lag & non linear power delivery, which the tzd suffers from.

As an example say you boot it in 2nd, upto the red line, change to 3rd, its out of the blinkin power band & so you get a few seconds delay before the turbo starts boosting again.

The petrol doesnt have the surge of the diesel, but its so much faster to accelerate as it does have more power & a higher rev limit, so it does make overtaking easier.

However, 30mpg or 50mpg, its a toughy but thats why ive bought a Tzd instead of running the Gti. Both are excellent cars in their own right & i do enjoy the Tzd, its easier to drive once in the power band than the Gti, but for pure thrills, its the Gti i'm afraid, so gaulddd knows what the valver must be like.....

I did however when i went to the Cholmondely meet get 36mpg out of the Gti, which i thought was pretty good for that type of car considering it is 16 years old.

So, there is no comparison, both were designed for doing a specific thing, reasonably quick economical diesel, or very quick petrol with not too bad fuel economy. Both will probably get you to the same destination, minutes apart, what with all the traffic on the roads these days.

So clear as mud then....

Philip Chidlow · Post by **Philip Chidlow** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:43 pm

The best I've ever got out of my GTi (auto it has to be said) is 31 mpg on a 220 mile run. 36mpg is bl**dy good mate.

MULLEY · Post by **MULLEY** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:24 am

I was taking it steady, but was still going 70 on motorways & 60 on others, so wasnt exactly dithering. Just made sure i was changing up nice & early & using the gti engine torque to do the hard work by using minimal revs & not slowing down too much to then have to speed back up.

If you drive carefully & look at the road ahead you can get quite good mileage out of most cars, except my mini which only does 30mpg on a good day, most of the time its about 25mpg. But i wouldnt swap that car for anything else, including the BX.