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WANTED: TDi engine

Post by jonnyshag » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:21 am

wamted: 1.8 tdi engine , must be a runner complete with turbo intercooler

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Post by BX Bandit » Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:49 am

Do you mean the standard BX Turbo Diesel? Or a 1.8TDi from another car? The BX engine, although closer to a 1.8 in cc, is always referred to as a 1.7 and there isn't a TDi version, teh BX never had a direct injection engine! Sorry for being pedantic...here is a 1.7TD engine..the guy selling it knows his stuff so it should be a good'un.

http://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php ... c&start=60

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Post by Kitch » Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:59 pm

Its a 1.8 chappy.....anyone who calls it a 1.7 is wrong :lol:

WRONG!!!!
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Post by Vanny » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:03 pm

its a 1.7, anyone who calls it a 1.8 is from the WRONG part of France!

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Post by Kitch » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:39 pm

Vanny wrote:its a 1.7, anyone who calls it a 1.8 is from the WRONG part of France!
Yeah Hampshire probably is the wrong part of France.

1650cc - 1749cc is a 1.7

1750cc - 1849cc is a 1.8

1769cc is the latter of the two.

Not tricky is it? :P
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Post by mnde » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:03 pm

So why didn't they call it a BX18 then mr smart guy?? :lol:

I'm thinking 1769 falls into a lower tax bracket in France than a 1.8 ... so they called it 17.

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Post by jonnyshag » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:16 pm

BX Bandit wrote:Do you mean the standard BX Turbo Diesel? Or a 1.8TDi from another car? The BX engine, although closer to a 1.8 in cc, is always referred to as a 1.7 and there isn't a TDi version, teh BX never had a direct injection engine! Sorry for being pedantic...here is a 1.7TD engine..the guy selling it knows his stuff so it should be a good'un.

http://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php ... c&start=60

It's near the end of the page under Hurricane Engine. good luck
yes citroen bx engine or early 405 , i thought TDi meant 'turbo diesel intercooler' 1769cc
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Post by jeremy » Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:19 pm

If the smaller engined one was called a BX 18 would people pay extra for a BX 19?

Was the 1.7TD made so they had something in reserve for the upcoming and heavy ZX and Xantia - as the increase in engine size helped disguise the weight? - or was it because the 1.7 block has more metal (it may not have for all I know) or was less likely to be overstressed with what was after all state of the art technology?

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Post by BX Bandit » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:20 pm

Cit NEVER called it a 1.8... even tho' it was nearer a 1.8!! Who you callin' wrong Kitch you Bitch!?? Insurance cuntpanies maybe...but they f&cked it up, as they usually do! The engine went in a Rover...called a 1.8...but didn't it also go in a Cavalier (Billy....you there??) but was called a 1.7TD.
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Post by cavmad » Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:39 pm

No mate. The Mk2 had a 1.6, early Mk3s had a 1.7 non turbo then there were Isuzu 1.7 turbo diesels and GM `low blow` 1.7 TDs. All, with the obvious exception of the Isuzu lump, were Vauxhall/GM`s own creation. Early 1.7 Vaux non turbo motors are very reliable and long lasting engines, the 1.6 was painfully slow and the Isuzu motors are brilliant.
Later 2.0DTi engines (Vectra and Astra etc) are great when they`re running but when the fuel pump packs in it`s a £1000 sealed unit :shock:
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Post by DavidRutherford » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:16 am

The reason it's called a 17TD engine is because Citroen refer to their engines by the number of hundered cc of the engine, ignoring the first litre. Hence a 1905cc engine is a XUD9 and a 1769cc engine is an XUD7. These then lend themselves to being referred to as "19" and "17" engines for badging.

although the "19" engine is 1.9 litres, the "17" engine is in fact a 1.8 litre. Peugeot called it a 1.8 TD engine for the MK1 405.

In the same way, a 1360cc TUD engine is reffered to as a TUD3, but the 1520-something-or-other engine is a TUD5.
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Post by Kitch » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:46 am

DavidRutherford wrote:The reason it's called a 17TD engine is because Citroen refer to their engines by the number of hundered cc of the engine, ignoring the first litre. Hence a 1905cc engine is a XUD9 and a 1769cc engine is an XUD7. These then lend themselves to being referred to as "19" and "17" engines for badging.

although the "19" engine is 1.9 litres, the "17" engine is in fact a 1.8 litre. Peugeot called it a 1.8 TD engine for the MK1 405.

In the same way, a 1360cc TUD engine is reffered to as a TUD3, but the 1520-something-or-other engine is a TUD5.
But if that was the case, the BX14 would be a BX13. And the BX16 a BX15?

AFAIK, they called the BX17 so, because as Jeremy said its too close to BX19. But it is a 1.8
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Post by jeremy » Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:53 am

Citroen would never have sold a BX 13 - after all if they were sensitive about the DTR (French TRD).

Never worried Peugeots who seemed to badge 405's as GLOT and GROT.

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Post by DavidRutherford » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:17 am

Kitch wrote:But if that was the case, the BX14 would be a BX13. And the BX16 a BX15?
Good point. Despite being TU3 and XU5 engines. Bizzare.

and I've just realised that the 2088cc "2.1TD" engine is labeled as an XUD11. If the system were continued from the XUD7 and XUD9 it should surely be an XUD10. There's no consistency at all.

Thinking about it, the 1442cc engine in various Talbot/Matra/Simca cars of the late '70's/early '80's was always badged as a 1.5, despite clearly being a 1.4

... and the 4-pot land-rover engine from the 60's and 70's. Always referred to as two-and-a-quarter litres, despite being 2286cc, and hence more accurately a 2.3 litre engine.

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Post by Kitch » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:39 am

Its all wrong. Theres no consistancy!

I lose sleep over this frequently, its just madness! :(
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