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Wanted: GTI/16Valve

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I have today been shafted in a most upsetting and unpleasant way.
I believed I had secured the purchase of a very fine BX 16 Valve, meeting the advertised price, being in possession of a train ticket to travel tomorrow and with cash in pocket when the vendor informed me that he had accepted a much higher offer from another punter and would sell to him if I would not match the new asking price.

I don't want to discuss the morality of the case. but I would not treat another in the same way.

I am not without transport (see my ad for a BX 14 RE) but I am in the market for a top quality vlaver/GTI at sensible money. I am in the north-east of England where my BX seems to be the last roadworthy one in existence.

Rob :cry:
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Can't help your situation, but that's a rotten way to behave :( Sorry to hear it and I hope you find your ideal car soon.
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Time to name & shame that person :x
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Post by docchevron »

/\ what they said, thats appaling.

Cant really help with a valver either, mine would be way too much if it was for sale.

Although there's a red one on the bay that might be worth a look, and there was a black P2 in the local paper for £300, but I haven't gone to have a look at it, and I have no idea what it's like, but I understand it's had a fair amount of engine work in the last couple of years, but thats in Bristol anyway....
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Post by MULLEY »

The very least that they should have done was to have refunded the train ticket....when money is involved people's scruples seem to disappear....

Its a real shame, but this isnt than uncommon i'm afraid....a bit like house gazumping.....

Anyway, another one will turn up, & who knows it may well be a much better car....
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Post by Philip Chidlow »

Small claims court. :evil:
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Philip chidlow wrote:Small claims court. :evil:
Not a bad idea, actually - usually the threat is sufficient, without having to follow through.
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Having been to the small claims court twice now, I would not hesitate to both threaten it, and follow up that threat. It's nowhere near as daunting as many people think.

However, was there anything other than a "gentlemans agreement"? I believe in law that for a sale, unless money has changed hands, no contract has been made. It's a shitty thing to do, but possibly not unlawful. Had you paid a deposit, and then the price had gone up, then you would have a clear-cut case.

That said, if you have a written advert and maybe a diary entry, noting your phone call to the seller accepting the advertised price, then you might have a case. I'd take some independent advice.

Also, I'm interested to know (and I'm sure others are too) what numbers are associated with this? (price before, price after, train ticket etc..)
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Regarding my costs the vendor has said that he will send me a cheque...

The car was originally advertised at a little over a thousand pounds, a price I agreed to, but the final offer from the third party was more than double that - the car unseen!

Although I feel I would probably be able to prove the existence of a contract, I do not wish to. I have recovered my equilibrium now and wish to move on. However should the promised cheque not arrive in the next day or two, that would be a different matter.

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Post by Philip Chidlow »

Someone offered £2k or so, but have they bought it? It would have to be in fairly astonishing condition to tempt anyone here to part with that amount for any BX (other than a BX4TC of course!)...

Either that or the buyer really wanted a good one and money's no object. It does happen.

If it doesn't sell do you think you'll be offered it again?



One might suspect (if being a little cynical :wink: TBH) that he tried to up your price without any real third party offer at all. But that would be dishonest wouldn't it :roll: :D
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Suspect you're right. £2K for a BX? REALLY REALLY unlikely, even if it was damn near "as new" £2K would be record breaking prices now...

EDIT:
Maybe I will hold out for £45K after all!
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If that price really was genuine then maybe a couple of years and I can sell mine and retire!
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Ah, the old' just washed shiny' look! :wink: :lol:

Looks very nice Chris. Is it attending the National this year?
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Had to wash it, it's been in the barn for months, and covered in dust, plus it was hacking it down all day, so it got washed several times!

It *should* be at the national this year, unless petrol prices keep rising, or it breaks.
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Post by Kitch »

Theres one in CCW for £300. In my experience, paying top money for a car doesn't guarantee mintness. Better to start cheap and put money where you know it needs to be :)

Having owned 3 valvers, the quickest and best driving was the one that cost £100 and had ropey bodywork with no MOT! The most expensive one was tight all round, but slightly limper than the others, possibly due to a pampered lifestyle (a genuinely nice example though) and my red car fits somewhere between the two....expensive and ropey I'd say :lol:
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My God, that looks good in black.
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