Is the recession biting BX ownership
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Is the recession biting BX ownership
There appears to be an abnormal amount of people selling up BX's and BX parts stock, do we think this is all part of the never ending recession?
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In a word, yes.
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Erm, i think it's more to do with the fact that they're just getting old and outdated.
Bearing in mind the "entry level" for any tidy motor with a decent MOT is around the £500 mark these days, well, you can get a hell of a variety of motors in the same price bracket as a BX. Some would say nicer, better equipped and most certainly safer!
Sensible people, particularly diesel owners, keep their BX's going because they're just damn cheap to live with (oh, and their natural affinity for the car) if you've got a good one.
I can't think of many other cars as versatile as the BX that i can maintain for peanuts, is as reliable, costs £100 F/C to insure and does 55mpg... can you? If i had an estate i'd be in heaven.
But to everyone else their just ageing tired old motors... 1998 Volvo V70... £695! 2002 Kia Rio 1.3... £695! 1999 Focus £575! All "better" to most people...
Bearing in mind the "entry level" for any tidy motor with a decent MOT is around the £500 mark these days, well, you can get a hell of a variety of motors in the same price bracket as a BX. Some would say nicer, better equipped and most certainly safer!
Sensible people, particularly diesel owners, keep their BX's going because they're just damn cheap to live with (oh, and their natural affinity for the car) if you've got a good one.
I can't think of many other cars as versatile as the BX that i can maintain for peanuts, is as reliable, costs £100 F/C to insure and does 55mpg... can you? If i had an estate i'd be in heaven.
But to everyone else their just ageing tired old motors... 1998 Volvo V70... £695! 2002 Kia Rio 1.3... £695! 1999 Focus £575! All "better" to most people...
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I have to agree with Jay, £500 buys you alot of car these days which are (perceived to be) more simple to maintain and get used parts for. The ususal line ive had when people have offered me cars for sale is they have updated to a Xantia!
The lady who owned my 19TZD bought a Proton Persona!
The lady who owned my 19TZD bought a Proton Persona!
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All with ECU's and sensors that can send them to a scrap yard in one failure no doubtJayW wrote:.. 1998 Volvo V70... £695! 2002 Kia Rio 1.3... £695! 1999 Focus £575! All "better" to most people...
My wife is fedup of people stopng her in the supermarket carpark telling her what a great car she has got and how they wish they still had theirs She knows what a great car she's got
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in a couple of years, the people driving BXs will be those who WANT to drive them - rather than those who have been driving them for years.
I'm seeing a drop off in BX ownership in what I think is a bit of a heartland for them - with some cars just disappearing at MoT time, when the repair bill is the same as buying a new £500 car.
I'm seeing a drop off in BX ownership in what I think is a bit of a heartland for them - with some cars just disappearing at MoT time, when the repair bill is the same as buying a new £500 car.
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BX-less at the moment!
Citroen XM 2.1TD VSX estate
Smart Roadster
Fiat Punto Cabriolet
Messerschmitt Kr200
Bond minicar mk C
Fiat 126 Bis
BX-less at the moment!
Despite being in the trade all my life I've always driven 'bangers', usually the part ex that's unlikely to find a quick buyer, that's how I got to the BXs (I've bought them for as little as twenty quid, always diesels) only in the last couple of years have they become more valuable because of their collector followers.
I suspect that their values will continue to rise as the get rarer, only the good fairly rust free ones though.
I suspect that their values will continue to rise as the get rarer, only the good fairly rust free ones though.
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I have no doubt yours is a temporary blip Phil and all will be back on track soon. I was suprised when Bob (Linegeist) sold up though.Philip Chidlow wrote:In a word, yes.
Edited to correct the spelling of Linegeist, (sorry Bob)
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At least I will still be driving a BX. Just not the Estate.Defender110 wrote:I have no doubt yours is a temporary blip Phil and all will be back on track soon. I was suprised when Bob (Linquist) sold up though.Philip Chidlow wrote:In a word, yes.
In the meantime the Xantia's suspension still manages to play up.
I agree about Bob though. a bit of a bolt from the blue. But hey, who am I to talk?
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Absolutely! But, it's all perception to Joe Bloggs... Airbags, ABS, Pretensioners, a crumple zone (that isn't your face) etc. etc.Defender110 wrote:All with ECU's and sensors that can send them to a scrap yard in one failure no doubtJayW wrote:.. 1998 Volvo V70... £695! 2002 Kia Rio 1.3... £695! 1999 Focus £575! All "better" to most people...
I think (unless a suitable estate comes up) my TGD will be my last BX, (other than the Valver {which i shall NEVER part with and which shall be my coffin - hopefully backwards at 100mph off an Alpine cliff}) .
I'll MOT the TGD at the end of the year then run it 'til next year and lay it up as spares for the Valver.
I have zero patience for your tedium.
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the estate can still be a cheap load lugger.mat_fenwick wrote:TBH, I thought we had already reached that point - and that everybody who just saw it as a cheap workhorse would have moved on long ago. Perhaps not?messerschmitt owner wrote:in a couple of years, the people driving BXs will be those who WANT to drive them
My XM is my everyday car and it racked up 20k miles last year. It'll rack up another 15k or so this year, with the BX taking about three thou of the strain and the smart roadster the rest.
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BX-less at the moment!
Citroen XM 2.1TD VSX estate
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Not planning to push the Regensburg special into service then?messerschmitt owner wrote: My XM is my everyday car and it racked up 20k miles last year. It'll rack up another 15k or so this year, with the BX taking about three thou of the strain and the smart roadster the rest.
I have zero patience for your tedium.
If you've spent some 15 years getting acquainted with the model, acquired (=built) most of the special tools you need to keep it running, collected a storage room full of spare parts and even taught the rest of the family to get used to them as well in the name of maintenance logistics, I'd say it's not too easy just to "move on". Especially if you want to continue your independence regarding all aspects of keeping your vehicle running.mat_fenwick wrote:TBH, I thought we had already reached that point - and that everybody who just saw it as a cheap workhorse would have moved on long ago. Perhaps not?messerschmitt owner wrote:in a couple of years, the people driving BXs will be those who WANT to drive them
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Agreed entirely, but not (I wouldn't have thought anyway) perceived as such any more by the general population.messerschmitt owner wrote:the estate can still be a cheap load lugger.
My BX is continuing to rack up 15-20k miles a year, and I see no reason why that should not continue. I may get a few strange looks when visiting customers in it, but that's not my problem!