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Post by mat_fenwick » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:13 pm

I have plenty of the trim clips (in black) as I always seemed to be losing them, so would grab a handful every time I was in a scrapyard! If I'm down on Saturday will bring 'em.
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Post by Dollywobbler » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:42 pm

Super. That'd be grand. There's absolutely no rush on this, but it would be nice to get the trims back in so I can have a load cover again.

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Post by Mike E (uk) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:54 pm

I have lots of those fasteners too.

pity they don't actually work as fasteners though.

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Post by Dollywobbler » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:24 pm

I was going to buy a hinge pin removal tool. But it was sunny, so I took a door off anyway. I think I'm still going to buy the removal tool! This was very, very hard work.
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Need to strip the door down next, though I still don't have any window seals, so pointless going too far at this stage. I can at least find out why the window doesn't seem to rise horizontally...

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Post by Dollywobbler » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:09 pm

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Door comparisons. Both rusty, one is free of dents at least! This was taken before I stripped the old door. A bit of a faff but got there in the end, but then felt like I'd had enough!

With the 'new' door, I'm wondering about fitting it to the car first so at least the door stays put while I fit things to it! Some queries before I do:

Any tips for the best technique when fitting the doors? Getting the hinge pins out was a right ball-ache. Hopefully it'll be a bit easier getting them back in?

Door check strap. This door doesn't really want to stay open. Is it possible to get new check straps or is fettling possible?

Window mechanism. The window was returning in a rather un-horizontal manner. It was as if the front roller wasn't in the runner. I think I only freed the rear roller (what a fiddly pain in the backside that was!) but as things were moving around a lot, I've no idea what the front roller was doing. Is there anything else that can fail that I should be looking for? The glass is attached to the runner as it should be.

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Post by Tim Leech » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:15 pm

Ian just looking at the picture, could you post me back the door mirror rubber wotsit, as the new door wont half make a din without out as I forgot to take it off.

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Post by mat_fenwick » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:36 pm

I find it easiest to pop a temporary pin (eg allen key) in to hold the door while fitting the other hinge. Trolley jack useful to take the weight of the door.
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Post by citsncycles » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:08 pm

..that_

I always fit the door with as little on it as possible, simply to make it lighter.

Could be a few things with the window:
Was the mechanism solidly fitted in the door?
Check that the rollers are solidly fitted to the glass
Are the lower vertical runners in the door present and not rotten.

I've had similar issues with the GS and found all of the above in varying degrees.
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Post by Dollywobbler » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:55 pm

Thanks folks. I knocked the pins out with some conveniently sized nails - which then neatly acted as hinge pins until I wanted to pull them out (proper hefty nails!). No reason why they can't do the temporary job when re-fitting.

Tim - can you wait until the X Rally? I'll try and get it posted next week otherwise.

The window mechanism appeared to be firmly attached to the door. I'll see how things look when I refit everything...

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Post by Tim Leech » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:40 pm

Dollywobbler wrote:
Tim - can you wait until the X Rally? I'll try and get it posted next week otherwise.
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Sure mate, I have your door seals!
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Post by Dollywobbler » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:27 am

Do you mean window seals? Grenman has bailed me out with my knackered door seal issue.

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1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
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Post by Tim Leech » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:02 am

Dollywobbler wrote:Do you mean window seals? Grenman has bailed me out with my knackered door seal issue.
Doh yeh that!
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1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
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2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
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Post by Dollywobbler » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:09 pm

Thanks for the tip Mat. A couple of old nails and a trolley jack did indeed make the door fitting fairly easy. I guess that's the easy bit as I now need to refit all the gubbins.

Quick query. How do you remove the rear window winders? Moving my attention rearward next.

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Post by mat_fenwick » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:28 pm

Not sure TBH - all the BXs I've owned have had electric windows!. If they're like other PSA cars of that era they'll just pull off...
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1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL DBV468W
1985 CITROEN BX 19GT C1TBX
1991 CITROEN BX 19TZI AUTO A/C BXi 19
1994 CITROEN XANTIA 1.8 SXi M908HRY
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL L33CHT
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Post by Tim Leech » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:18 pm

On a mk 2 they just prize off so worth a try?
1963 VW BEETLE 1200
1985 BX 19GT Mk1
1991 BX 19TZI Auto A/C
1994 Xantia 1.8i SX
1972 Morris Marina 1.8 SDL
1979 Rover SD1 V8-S
1980 Morris Marina 1.7HL
2002 Rover 75 CDTi Connossieur SE AUTO Nav
2003 Rover 25 1.6i XL 5 DR