does anyone know what this is called ?

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Post by Way2go » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:53 pm

The point of this "round thingy" in addition to being able to deliver a good volume of fuel at low pressure is to prevent "Vapour Lock" which will be more prevalent on hot days and when idling in traffic.

Without the return line some fuel in the supply line can become hot enough to turn gaseous.

To save my typing finger, see: http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/ ... tm?t=49274
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Post by citronut » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:54 pm

i cut one open years ago and it is full of charcoal,

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Post by Mickey taker » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:41 pm

kiwi wrote:Unless your prepared to open it up to find out what it does on the inside your not going to be any wiser!

However why do you want to replace it? :?:
:cry: :cry: my one is missing , I can't open it up because it isn't there.
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Post by Defender110 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:46 pm

Mickey taker wrote: :cry: :cry: my one is missing , I can't open it up because it isn't there.
Excuses excuses, that's all we ever here from you :!: :)
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Post by BX Meteor » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:27 pm

Defender110 wrote:
Mickey taker wrote: :cry: :cry: my one is missing , I can't open it up because it isn't there.
Excuses excuses, that's all we ever here from you :!: :)
I thought he was everywhere, not just there :P

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Post by kiwi » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:41 pm

Way2go wrote:The point of this "round thingy" in addition to being able to deliver a good volume of fuel at low pressure is to prevent "Vapour Lock" which will be more prevalent on hot days and when idling in traffic.
Now you given me something to think about with the "Vapour Lock" :idea:

Something that has been annoying me in the TZS with regards to cornering at speed, I have this issue where the car stutters like a loss of fuel going to the carb. Now you got me thinking maybe there is a fault in that cylinder gizmo.

A swap out from the TRS is on the cards to confirm that!
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Post by Defender110 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:50 pm

So is it a ''round thing'' or ''cylinder gizmo''? lets make our minds up :)
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Post by BX Meteor » Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:15 am

/\ :lol: I give up .... it's not me that needs one.


I have found all the following after Willy came up with "fuel vapour separator" (good work dude)

Wikipedia

ebay example

another ebay example

Willy's link again Ford Manuals

Mick it's also mentioned in Mk1 Golf owners club !!



And using Malcolm's insight (charcoal filters)

wikipedia

got lost in this thread



PS .... I'm determined to disconnect the output on the one on my car to see what comes out when the engine is running ...might be some special ants in there (I don't think it can be opened up)

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Post by BX Meteor » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:45 am

:!: :!: Mick these might do the job :!: :!:

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Kevan , this one is for a Defender !!!



The "round thing" is called a ..... Petrol Vapour Separator ... aka .... PETROL SWIRL POT , FUEL SWIRL POT ... or just ... SWIRL POT

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Post by Mickey taker » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:37 am

kiwi wrote:
Something that has been annoying me in the TZS with regards to cornering at speed, I have this issue where the car stutters like a loss of fuel going to the carb. Now you got me thinking maybe there is a fault in that cylinder gizmo.
That happens on mine with the elactric pump,
Usually resolved by dropping down a gear and keeping revs up a bit
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Post by Defender110 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:54 am

4 cylinder Petrol Defender that is a very rare beast.
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Post by KevR » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:13 am

kiwi wrote:
Something that has been annoying me in the TZS with regards to cornering at speed, I have this issue where the car stutters like a loss of fuel going to the carb. Now you got me thinking maybe there is a fault in that cylinder gizmo.
Float height too low? We used to get the same problem with the race 2CV on long sweeping bends as all the fuel in the float chamber would be forced to one side. Cured by tilting the engine up on one side (which side depended on the particular racetrack!).
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Post by BX Meteor » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:16 pm

/\ wouldn't it be easier to simply adjust the float height ?

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Post by Willy » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:40 pm

http://www.scribd.com/doc/59681255/Hayn ... manual-Ref

The picture's rubbish but on page REF-15 (Peugeot 309) the Haynes refers simply to said item as the "canister"
Canister A container in an evaporative emission control system; contains activated charcoal granules to trap vapours from the fuel system
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Post by BX Meteor » Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:14 pm

/\ well if I rang a dealer, I think the conversation would go like this:
me "can you get a canister for a Citroen BX petrol"
dealer "do you mean an oil filter"
me "no it's for the fuel system"
dealer "do you mean an inline filter"
me "no it's a round thing with three pipes"
dealer "three pipes, where do they go to"
me "one from the pump, one to the carb, one to the tank"
dealer "we don't have the BX details any more, sorry can't help"
me "I think it's also called a petrol swirl pot"
dealer "why didn't you say that in the first place"