Retire or repair??

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Yup. 406s had it - and the 2.1 I think.
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Spoke to Paul yesterday, and he's after a mighty fifty quid for the engine if you come and pick it up.

Alternatively, as I said there might be a possibility that I could deliver it and pick up my Land Rover chassis at the same time, if we could share ferry costs. I would have thought that would be more financially viable if anyone wanted a load of other bits from Paul's scrapper as well, or needed anything else bringing over from here. It would also be more viable to wait a while as obviously the ferry costs are at their peak at the moment.
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Hi Kev

That sounds like a good idea - we have our NA Diesel Auto for now so it's not super urgent - more importantly though does the engine run at the moment or can it be run to confirm it's all OK - no excess coolant pressure when starting etc? Do you know the mileage at all and if it has the garrett or KKK turbo?

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Not sure if it can be run - most of the interior of the car's stripped so electrics are out, but I suspect something could be rigged up. I know it was running fine until a few weeks ago though. The only reason Paul's scrapping it is because no one seemed to want to buy it as a going concern as it's a bit battered, and he didn't want to spend the 60 euros to get it through another Controle Technique just on the off-chance. Mileage can't be confirmed either I'm afraid as apparently it's already had a speedo change at some point.
I'd be inclined to have the head off it anyway, lap the valves in, new head gasket, timing belt, water pump etc - easy enough with the engine out and then you have peace of mind.
Any idea how to tell which turbo it is?
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KKK has an allen key adjuster and locknut on the end of the turbo, the Garrett has an adjustable length rod to a separate actuator. Pretty sure they both are marked on the castings if the engine is accessible.
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Engine is still in the car, so access is difficult. Will try and have a look nect time I'm over there - in the meantime will practice by seeing if I can tell which is which on any of mine (two on cars, one in the attic of the barn).
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Hi Kev - Still want to go for this - I Think I've found some secure outside storage in Bristol where I can do this / prepare the car over the next few months.
Garrett turbo and Bosch pump, mounting bracket and injectors would be best if you've got them - I think you mentioned you'd have the lucas and injectors off that engine? Or I've still got the lucas of my engine.
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OK. I'll have a word with Paul and tell him you want the engine. I'll dig out the Bosch pump bits. I'll take the Lucas one off your hands for a suitable fee (given that it's got a new BCV...) if you like.
Not sure exactly when it'll be possible to bring it back to UK - will depend on ferry prices as much as anything, but we can work that out later.
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KevR wrote:OK. I'll have a word with Paul and tell him you want the engine. I'll dig out the Bosch pump bits. I'll take the Lucas one off your hands for a suitable fee (given that it's got a new BCV...) if you like.
Not sure exactly when it'll be possible to bring it back to UK - will depend on ferry prices as much as anything, but we can work that out later.
Sounds good - BX isn't doing anything much at the moment, given my classic insurance policy it's cheaper to keep it on the road than rent an outside secure storage space.

I do have a spare 1.7TD head that I'm going to start stripping now and prepare for this engine.

In the meantime I'm considering an old Audi 80 Avant for estate duties kind of like the contrast ...
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Sounds like a plan then, especially as I've just realised I've got a galvanised 2CV chassis that I need to take back to UK at the same time as picking up the Landy one. Won't be towing anything anywhere 'til I get the BX clutch done though.
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RIght then, assuming you're still up for this... as of today the engine is out and sitting awaiting transport. Very oily thanks to rocker cover leak but at least it's not rusty! Fitted with Garret turbo.
Any other bits you need? Spare gearbox?
As for transport, may be a possibility of it ending up in Dorset later this month for a few quid towards extra trailer on ferry when some friends come over to visit. Could you pick up from there?
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Hi - kev, that sounds good - spare box would be useful, is it attached at the moment?

Never transported an extra engine before... it'll have to go in the BX saloon unless I arrange something else - is this feasible? What does an XUD TD weigh, around 150KG?
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Gearbox is removed - it made manhandling the engine about a lot easier.
Don't know what the engine weighs but it is pretty heavy - I'd say no real problem to get it in the back of an estate with a bit of ingenuity and grunting, but the higher load lip on a hatch might make it tricky. Got to be do-able though. The Dorset option's evaporated unfortunately - instead of coming over with van and trailer our friends are arriving in their E-type, so unlikely they'll be able to take an engine home!
So most likely scenario would be that I bring it back when I come back to UK early October, in which case I should be able to deliver it straight to you (or to somewhere you can store it).
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Ok, sounds like a plan...

We're Moving from Bristol to Stroud late October and as long as I get my valver MOT'd and out of it's 7 year slumber I'll have some space to deal with this TD.. in the GL6 area..

I'll PM you some contact details nearer the time.. thanks
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themildbunch wrote:
I'll PM you some contact details nearer the time.. thanks
The time is at hand...
I still haven't managed to sort the clutch and arrange a trip, but Paul is going back to Brizzle this weekend (leaving thursday am) and can bring the engine/box etc with him, but will need confirmation sharpish as we'll need to load it up tomorrow afternoon, and I need to give him the Bosch pump etc.
Assuming you're still up for it, can you pm me your contact details and I'll pass them on to him?
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