Looks like G-SEG's time is up :(

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Re: Looks like G-SEG's time is up :(

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nice, that's not even trying is it! May aswell have used plastercine!
That said, it doesn't look any worse than the back end of TFB really, I must do something with that soon, before I'm forced to break out some Ford panels and a pot of UHU!
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I bet Tim is glad he was never in a crash in G-seg, looks like there are no crumple zones left!

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Afaik it never had a accident in my time. Surely that it mendable?
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Tim Leech wrote:Afaik it never had a accident in my time. Surely that it mendable?
Like how you say "as far as I know it never had an accident in my time." If you'd had one big enough to cause that, you'd have know about it. I would also say those bodged plates look about 3-4 years old IMO, possibly a bit younger. What garage did you used to use? I'd be watching closely if you take any cars back there personally. Not saying it was them, but you want to be vigilant.

Everything's mendable, yeah. Three issues though:

Firstly, cost. It ain't cheap in personal or paid labour. The value of the car certainly wouldn't cover it - it's a pretty extensive project there!

Secondly, what I've uncovered so far is pretty disturbing. If someone's been willing to bodge it up like that, what state is the rest of the car in?

Thirdly, scale of all the other bits that need doing; the front chassis legs are cained, the inner arches are falling apart, the windscreen has rust all the way around it under the paint, the sills are going, the front panel is going.......there's so much to do. Then it needs re-piping, a front wheel bearing, a CV joint, new struts to replace the stuck ones, new spheres (it's got non-16v ones on, which is pretty pointless), two new tyres, an ABS sensor and the engine sounds like a bag of nails....it's also down on power.
If I didn't have another one that was better, I'd probably get a bit more 'into' it, but I've had enough 16valvers over the years to know when one is worth bothering with and when it's time to call it a day on one.

On the plus side, the sunroof works well! :lol:
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Bloomin eck! Those stick on patch repairs are awesome! I want! I can't believe how err separated the boot is!
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When you look at each repair separately, it's not too bad - it's when you realise it's like that everywhere that you start to realise what a big job it is.

In theory, those stick on patches are fine for an MOT, but I agree that I'd not trust a car where I'd found that - what if the structural areas are the same?
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citsncycles wrote: In theory, those stick on patches are fine for an MOT
Really? The last MOT guy went round the underneath poking my BX after welding had been done. I'm not sure how those patches would stand up to that? [-X
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Way2go wrote:
citsncycles wrote: In theory, those stick on patches are fine for an MOT
Really? The last MOT guy went round the underneath poking my BX after welding had been done. I'm not sure how those patches would stand up to that? [-X
I had to prize these off with a screwdriver, so the pissy little MOT inspection hammer wouldn't have found an issue with them. They were made of what looked like a mk4 Golf roof, or door, or something. It was that kind of mid-solid blue colour.
Wouldn't have been so much use against something weighty, like a crash. And certainly would have sped up the rusting process underneath. I think that's why it's so bad.....nothing's been repaired properly.
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I had the repairs done, for an MOT, using recycled metal which was thicker than sheets I could buy. I can't weld and the bodyshop wanted silly money so got them at work to use the glue they bond new panels on with is approved by the motor trade and would be strong. They were done about 6 years ago and passed a few MOT's since. The other corrosion is a lot worse then when I last looked.

It seems the old girls time is up, shame as I poured money into it, but the rust was hiding and eating away.
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All I'd say mate is don't take advice from that garage again! There was nothing proper going on here....it was just a bodge.

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I've moved on a lot in 6 years, and become more profissiant, and learned not to be scared of welding, I sticking do it but know people that can.
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Ummm, I'm glad you've moved on Tim. I'm quite surprised you agreed to work at that standard but still. If you don't have the skills yourself then yes it does get expensive but you have to bite the bullet and invest in the car.
In structural areas the MOT chap would of found work like that and failed the car.
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I'm fortunate the GT thankfully is sound, and was under sealed by Citroen from new plus had just two owners from new and was always garaged. Unlike G SEG who after I sold it in 1999 had 8 and was pretty much thrashed to death.
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Tim Leech wrote:I'm fortunate the GT thankfully is sound, and was under sealed by Citroen from new plus had just two owners from new and was always garaged. Unlike G SEG who after I sold it in 1999 had 8 and was pretty much thrashed to death.
I don't think the number of registered keepers makes a difference. Or how hard it's been driven for that matter! Its more about the environment it spends its early days in, and keeping on top of maintenance. Being crashed into probably didn't help either!
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