Pigeon Restoration

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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by BX Bandit » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:15 pm

Mk 1s are quite, if not very cool. I dearly wish I had my dads mk 1 Sphinx Gold 19RD B148UYD but there you go,my sister traded it in for a fooking Mondeo.

Anyway, I hate cars
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Stinkwheel » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:04 am

BX Bandit wrote: Anyway, I hate cars
Many a true word spoken in jest Bandit!!

I also hate cars (apart from when i love them, but mostly hate)
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:19 am

Stinkwheel wrote:
BX Bandit wrote: Anyway, I hate cars
Many a true word spoken in jest Bandit!!

I also hate cars (apart from when i love them, but mostly hate)

I hate mine at the momentt, well one of them, and its not a Citroen.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Stinkwheel » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:28 am

morris or VW then Tim?
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by BX Bandit » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:33 am

The Morris?

I've put more effort into this car than any other, the steering I can handle, but the smokey emissions I'm putting down to poor compression which is from the piece of crap I bought as an excuse for a cylinder head and more fool me for not paying close enough attention to the valves/seats.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:40 am

Stinkwheel wrote:morris or VW then Tim?

I dont actually own a VW, its a company car.

The brakes on the Morris have been a right ball ache, sometimes they work, then not. Ive replaced the master cylinder, brake linings, fluid and bled it more times than soft Mick!

It has a remote servo fitted which we think is the issue, ive a friend who owns a brake flaring tool who is coming down to bypass it to see if thats the issue as its very strange the way it behaves.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by BX Bandit » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:20 am

Make sure the vacuum line to the inlet manifold isn't cracked or jubilee clips loose etc....
If you are going to keep the car long term, the Morris marina brake discs are a worthwhile conversion.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:23 am

BX Bandit wrote:Make sure the vacuum line to the inlet manifold isn't cracked or jubilee clips loose etc....
If you are going to keep the car long term, the Morris marina brake discs are a worthwhile conversion.

The servo kit is new, but i fitted a new vac pipe etc just to make sure, it seems to be letting air into the system. Ive bought a brake light switch and flexi's too.

My mate has the same car with the original drum set up and for my style of driving and its 48bhp they do the job fine (when they work properly that is).
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Mickey taker » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:23 pm

Tim Leech wrote:
Stinkwheel wrote:morris or VW then Tim?

I dont actually own a VW, its a company car.

The brakes on the Morris have been a right ball ache, sometimes they work, then not. Ive replaced the master cylinder, brake linings, fluid and bled it more times than soft Mick!

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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Mickey taker » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:28 pm

I must have a sit in a moggy to see if I err fit and could still drive one ,
a really nice one needing a little work was on ebay last week £1300 buy it now and it didn't sell.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:33 pm

Mickey taker wrote:I must have a sit in a moggy to see if I err fit and could still drive one ,
a really nice one needing a little work was on ebay last week £1300 buy it now and it didn't sell.

Theres a surprisng amount of room Mick, I have to move my seat quite a bit forward to reach the pedals!
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by BX Bandit » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:14 pm

Tim Leech wrote:
BX Bandit wrote:Make sure the vacuum line to the inlet manifold isn't cracked or jubilee clips loose etc....
If you are going to keep the car long term, the Morris marina brake discs are a worthwhile conversion.

The servo kit is new, but i fitted a new vac pipe etc just to make sure, it seems to be letting air into the system.
I'm sure your mate will sort you out but what do you mean by letting air into the system?
The servo needs a 'vacuum', fed by the tube from the servo to the inlet manifold. It needs to be air tight otherwise it won't pull a vacuum and you'll lose the effect of the servo.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:02 am

The servo seems to working ok, but also seems to be letting air into the brake lines themselves.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Stinkwheel » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:06 am

Servos usually are sealed around the main body by a big o-ring. They have been known to suck in air past them.
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Re: Pigeon Restoration

Post by Tim Leech » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:30 am

Stinkwheel wrote:Servos usually are sealed around the main body by a big o-ring. They have been known to suck in air past them.

Were going to isolate it and see if it makes a difference, if not I will reconnect it and start changing wheel cylinders!
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