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Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:33 pm
by Tim Leech
Des Smith wrote:
Tim Leech wrote:Slightly spoilt by reading this Months Citroenian and the SM columnists damning report of the national! Well done Mark on getting your valver on the front cover !
That sounds like an opportunity to scribe a few words of rebuttal in the next issue then, Tim. :D

Ive already sent him a rather "curt" email.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:00 pm
by Charlotte
What was said in the Citroenian? We're a 2CVGB family at the moment, rather put off by the "old boys" mentality of certain sectors of the CCC...

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Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:13 pm
by mat_fenwick
I'd be interested to know what was said also - we can always split this off into a separate thread if needs be. For me it was one of the more enjoyable meets; sure, it wasn't perfect (better weather and somewhere to buy food on site would have helped!) but only minor stuff really.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:48 pm
by RxBX
mat_fenwick wrote:I'd be interested to know what was said also - we can always split this off into a separate thread if needs be. For me it was one of the more enjoyable meets; sure, it wasn't perfect (better weather and somewhere to buy food on site would have helped!) but only minor stuff really.
Hi Mat !
The 'Food-Topic' has had some rather lively discussion over on the XM-FORUM, you should be able to see that section of the forum without being a member, there's also some nice photos posted there too :wink:

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Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:49 pm
by Tim Leech
mat_fenwick wrote:I'd be interested to know what was said also - we can always split this off into a separate thread if needs be. For me it was one of the more enjoyable meets; sure, it wasn't perfect (better weather and somewhere to buy food on site would have helped!) but only minor stuff really.
I think he compares it National Rally's of old where you could win a 2CV as a first prize and theres was mostly DS's and SM's on show.....time moves on as does the membership, we need younger blood which sadly cant afford to own a DS etc.

Personally I thought the CXM was very good, the food was fine by me and after all it was free!, shame the numbers were poor and it rained but we cant help that! A big thanks to all those involved.

As for the Jag winning the Roger Bradford trophy....it was a bit of a surprise but Patrick Rugg knew him better than anyone else on site so he was the man to decide. Apparently he loved the "E" and would have coveted it.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:46 pm
by mat_fenwick
I was meaning a food van at the National, not referring to the CXM which I didn't attend (distance, coupled with friends visiting up here), Having a van come around for breakfast or hot food during the day would (for me) have been welcome, although you've got to balance that against presumably an up front cost to get the caterers in, plus the inevitable comments about it being expensive/crap food if you do! It certainly wasn't a big deal for me, put it that way.

As for prizes, they have to reflect the money available. But the possibility of winning a prize is fairly low down the list of reasons why I attend these events...

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:58 pm
by mds141
Catering facilities were on hand at the National Mat. Well BXClub HQ was anyways. :-)

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:04 pm
by MULLEY
I must admit that no food on the site was a downer for me, i didn't have anything to eat all day & set off early as a result & found a mcdonalds & it tasted bleedin lovely as i was starving, apart from that it was fine.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:09 pm
by Tim Leech
mds141 wrote:Catering facilities were on hand at the National Mat. Well BXClub HQ was anyways. :-)

Indeed! I can recommend the chef!

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:47 pm
by Des Smith
Brian Cass (SeMantics columnist) wrote:I was bitterly disappointed in this meeting, which appeared to be a camping meeting held for Citroen owners, (camping is not my scene). I also understand from another SM owner who attended on the Sunday that it was not much better that day. The only good part about it was meeting new and old friends.
Not a particularly instructive critique is it? Ray Fenwick's editorial addresses the issues raised by CCC members, these being principally to do with a long walk to the toilets and showers and the lack of a wet-weather alternative. I suspect this is being driven by the older contingent, possibly with very pressing reasons for being close to a loo.

I imagine there are venues with better facilities, particularly for those spending the night and craving some decent scoff. Toilets are pretty critical too, but for the day visitors it wasn't a drama. Personally, these kind of events are likely to involve an element of compromise on the convenience (sorry) front and to some, part of the charm. At the end of the day, you're putting a load of cars in a field and if you want gucci facilities, they're going to need to be paid for.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:53 pm
by Des Smith
MULLEY wrote:found a mcdonalds & it tasted bleedin lovely.
Fer chris'sakes, you must have been desperate!

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:21 am
by Thread Bear
Wasn't the pub open?

CXM seem to be a bit like the Saab things I went to in the stroker. The later car owners did not seem much interested in the earlier cars and some seemed, or indeed, made themselves, unapproachable. Others were very friendly and willing to impart knowledge. Takes all sorts to make a club and they all have a right to turn up at an event. However unless there is something interesting going on, or folk are talking, there is little hold. I have had my fill of standing around in fields looking at shiny cars. Not interested in prizes, really, though its nice to be given one. Tatty old sheds are much more interesting, be it static and full, or on wheels at the event needing putting back together to get home. Its the Campaign for more Grease at events and an excuse to play cars.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:16 am
by Charlotte
And are these DS and SM owners going to put in all the effort to make it they way THEY want it? Hmm?

Really upsets me. I thoroughly enjoyed the national, and by the behaviour or most SM and DS owners their idea of a great meet would be sleeping in a camping chair 3 feet from their car with knotted hankies on their heads, then off to bed early as soon as the sun dips below the treetops.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:46 am
by Tim Leech
Charlotte wrote:And are these DS and SM owners going to put in all the effort to make it they way THEY want it? Hmm?

Really upsets me. I thoroughly enjoyed the national, and by the behaviour or most SM and DS owners their idea of a great meet would be sleeping in a camping chair 3 feet from their car with knotted hankies on their heads, then off to bed early as soon as the sun dips below the treetops.
Most DS/SM owners are probably of a certain age with little overheads and a few quid in the bank, fair enough but if we planned 2014 at a large country house with 4 star hotel rooms and catered food at £15 a head I imagine it would put most people off.

Re: CXM Rally 2013

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:03 pm
by Charlotte
Tim Leech wrote:...and catered food at £15 a head...
Remember how many people were angry about the £12 hogroast at Little Horwood a couple of years ago! I was one of them actually, because I don't like pork :lol: