17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by paintingbox » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:03 pm

just trying to upload a photo.. any tips!? I have now borrowed a 28 mm bi-hex socket

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by paintingbox » Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:08 pm

https://i.imgsafe.org/fe93ec0.jpg

looks like there is a slight leak from the driveshaft which was more obvious when I jacked it up... (ie oil on the floor)

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by Kaapelimies » Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:06 pm

Good pics. How many revolutions was the nut loose?
Is the driveshaft rubber torn? As there's so much oil everywhere I would suspect a leaking LHM-retun pipe or even a brake hose. But if the gaiter's gone that's maybe it. If you don't buy a new driveshaft outer joint, wash the old one througout (as there's a lot of dirt, sand and stuff) and put a lot of new grease when changing just the rubber.
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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by paintingbox » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:19 pm

Hi All...

I need a little more assistance (?)
Having removed the end of the gearbox it is evident that there is a lot of play in the syncro hub and sleeve but the nut doesn't appear to be loose..

However .. I cannot get the sodding pin out of the selector fork.. any tips on this would be most helpful.. if I cannot get the fork off then is there any other way of tightening up the nut and will this then remove this play?

Kaap the oil is from a leaking lhm return and not from a driveshaft apologies that was a red herring

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by paintingbox » Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:04 pm

More questions (sorry)

Ok so I have removed the pin which locates the fork onto the (fifth gear selector?) rod

Do I have to now physically remove the fork? In which case do I put pressure on the rod to hold it in whilst pulling the fork out? Do I need to take out the detent spring and ball first?

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by Kaapelimies » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:51 pm

Uh, I don't remember anymore.. I think I followed Russeks advices. Don't loose any parts ;)
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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by Jaba » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:41 pm

You don't need to remove the selector unless taking off the gear cluster as you can tighten the nut with it on.
There is a spring and ball bearing inside there which are very easy to lose. You just need to select two gears together to lock the shafts up by selecting any gear 1 - 4 then pushing the 5 gear selector to engage 5th as well.
There should not be lots of play between the 5th gear and the shaft only enough to let it slide in and out on the shaft.

Frankly that gearbox sounds beyond retrieval and I would be looking for a replacement.
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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by paintingbox » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:01 pm

Thanks Jaba.. I have come to the same conclusion! Anyone got a good BE1 box .. it is the BL03 variant I think ..

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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by rutter123 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:07 pm

Try this place Edwards 01277651486 in Billericay Essex french car breakers i should imagine a 1.9 box is different ratios from a 1.7 ?? early non turbo c15 or 205/309 box should be the same.
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Re: 17RD Gearbox Problems Can Anyone Help!

Post by Kaapelimies » Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:30 pm

TD has a longer 5th than N/A. More economical, but also slower..
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