Moving on from a BX

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Hi

These were the Jap equivalent of the Lancia Integrale I believe. Powerful and sought-after (obviously!)
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jeremy wrote:Glancing idly through Autotrader on the net I was staggered at the enormous prices being asked for Nissan Pulsar GTi - seems there is even a 4 x 4. Does anyone know what is special about them?

I'm talking about £4000 or more for K or L reg with highish mileages. (over 50,000 - so nothing remarkable or 'nearly new')

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/ca ... n_pr=3000&
The Sunny/Pulsar GTi was nothing special 150bhp 2.0 16v n/a with FWD. The sunny was sold in the UK, the Pulsar in Japan and USA etc.

The GTi-R however, was a 225bhp 4wd turbo variant of this, with a big bonnet vent. £3k is average money now, although people do demand more if its been tuned, which most have.
They're not all that great either. They look pants, the 4wd system is as strong as cheese (not in smell either) and many have been lowered, which cains the diff.
On the plus side, 5.5secs to 60mph and easy to get more power. No my cuppa tea really, but the Max Power readers aspire to them.
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Someone gave me a ride in one a few years ago, complete with turbo blow off sound effects, it did push me back into the seat alright but theres not a lot of space in there, hardly a BX replacement.
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I'm running my 4x4 camper everyday at the moment as the BX has a dodgy starter motor. I'd replace it but the weather is AWFUL
Over and out from me

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I'd say a modern BX is the C4 personally.
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Yes Kitch - its got a wierd dash - interesting engines but steel springs!

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Good point, but in the 80's I'd class the BX's suspension as an advancement over conventional types, whereas now the conventional stuff is arguably better for everyday use, so its still at the front of the pack like the BX was back then.

Looks different, without being mad. Weird dash too, like PRM was. Cheap to buy, good diesels and dodgey electrics....its the BX through and through :lol:

No good sports version though, so no 16v replacements yet :lol:
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Kitch wrote:
Looks different, without being mad. Weird dash too, like PRM was. Cheap to buy, good diesels and dodgey electrics....its the BX through and through :lol:

:lol:
Imo the C4 coupe is ugliest Citroen ever made, the other C4 is ok albeit nothing different to a Focus {in appearance}
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Arctic Steel has a C4 hdi which he rates, I do think the 3 door is daring but a bit ugly.

The C6 on the othe hand is lurvly!

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Funnily enough I think the 3 door looks ok from the side, it just looks odd when driving behind it.
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tim leech wrote: The C6 on the othe hand is lurvly!

Am I right in saying the V6 in it is a Ford V6? It does look nice, but inevitably will struggle in sales against the German cars.
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The so called 'Ford' V6 diesel is actually a Peugeot engine. What will be interesting is to see if the C6 gets the planned V8 version which is scheduled for Range Rovers and presumably Jaguars - and may be Ford's first attempt to change American buying habits by the use of technology.

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Artic`s Citroen is probably the only new one they make that I like. However despite the fact I can`t afford one anyhow, I wouldn`t buy a new Peugot or Citroen on principle wrt the way they`ve shafted their British workforce.
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jeremy wrote:The so called 'Ford' V6 diesel is actually a Peugeot engine.
The V6 petrol engine in them I thought was Ford, wasn't aware Ford had anything to do with the diesel C6. Apparently the new Mondeo coming out next year will also have the same diesel lump as the C6.
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The V6 was some sort of joint arrangement between Ford & Citroen and is the same lump thats in the Discovery and I think Jags.

Didn't know about a V8 Jeremy...is that a diesel V8? Cool!!

On the C4 - I like the Coupe - think its great. A couple of the Mums doing the school run have em', a VTR and a VTS. The VTS has a baby walker type rear spoiler which looks cr*p but overall the car looks brill. The 'other' one (5 door??) does look very much like a Focus and is alot more bland. As for the C6, I want to love it, I really do but I'm not convinced and think its on the ugly side. Personally, when considering the BX, Xantia and XM, even the Xsara ,the facelift versions always seem alot better looking, so maybe a facelift C6 will appeal to me. I would of course have a C6 over any other car of its size but I wouldn't pay that amount of money for any car. I'm concerned it will be a flop - Citroens (esp ones with green blood) have a fairly loyal customer base but not a huge one. As much as I hate the usual suspects in the same sector, most people outside of the loyalty 'club' are unlikely to be swayed. Even if you put 'trend' and reputation to one side, the residuals are going to be one of the worst (i.e.like XM) so how will they 'attract' more custom??




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