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Post by Ian_Fearn »

I think i'd like to put a rebuilt engine into it.

As this engine is already on its 3rd rebuild i think its time for another lump.

So then boys whats the best course of action to get a good engine?
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Doc? Seriously I think he has one, it'd be worth asking at least. Failing that look out for a spares/repairs BX for sale, that way (hopefully) you could try the engine out first.


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DavidRutherford wrote:Minor, teeny-tiny itty-bitty teensy-weensy little problem with that:

Neither car existed.

To my knowledge, the 1.9TD never came from factory with an autobox. The 405 was never even available as a diesel auto, and I think the ZX diesel auto sold about 2 examples.

What you could do instead is grab the auto-box from a 2.1TD XM, and fit it to a 17/19 TD engine in a BX. Given the reduction in power that it would be handling (drop from 110 to 88/92 hp) it's weaknesses will probably become irrelevant.

Or leave the XUD11 engine from the XM on it, and have a 2.1TD 110hp TD auto BX. That would move rather well... almost as well as the GTI auto.
?? I've seen a ZX TD Volcane Auto, it lived in Gloucester and was often parked next to my XM! I assumed it was factory? It certainly looked like everything was as it should be..

Trying to fit an XM auto into a BX would have some issues, the mount and physically getting it in the hole being two!
I still say the XM 'box gets a bad press and it's actually a very good 'box. But so is the stock BX box.....

You're not wrong Billy. I do indeed have a 8V GTi engine in stick (and unlike a certain Ebayer you dont have to remove it yourself! :lol: )

It was rebuilt about 20k miles before the car was decimated by a dustcart (and I do mean DESTROYED!)
It's been sat (undercover) for 4 years. Personally I'd rebuild it again before fitting it, since it's been stood, but it's here (well sort of, it;s in Bristol anyway!) if Ian wants it.
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Post by Ian_Fearn »

Cheers Doc.

Looks like i may have to buy an engine crane....

What parts would I need to rebuild it (again?)....??
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Well, again, I'm talking personally here, it may go fine as is, probably will actually, but if I were going to fit it, I'd do the following:

Pull the head, and re-lap the valves. They've done little mileage, but they've been sat up for a long time.

I'd re-ring the pistons. I suspect they may have stuck up by now, I cant say I've turned it over at any regular interval..

I'd wham a set of mains and big end shells in it, and maybe replace the oil pump, I know that wasn't replaced before.

Oh, and I'd replace the liner seals, easy to do and cheap!


Other than that, seals and gaskets...

Again though, that is what I would do, and I'm known for being stoopidly anal about engine rebuilds....
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docchevron1472 wrote:Again though, that is what I would do, and I'm known for being stoopidly anal about engine rebuilds....
BUT do they work afterwards? If so then i'll follow your advice!
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You don't need to buy an engine crane at all Ian. Vanny's currently borrowing mine and you're more than welcome to borrow it when he's finished with it.
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Ian_Fearn wrote: BUT do they work afterwards? If so then i'll follow your advice!
Never built a duffer yet mate, anything from single pot two strokes to 14 litre commercial diesels.. :wink:
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Do you have any time i can book?
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Er, probably not for a couple of months TBH mate. Things are stooopid busy, although if a slot opens up I'll let ya know!
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Anytime my friend!

I'm in no rush either. Am hoping that something may pop up this weekend at the CCC rally.
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DavidRutherford wrote:
Kitch wrote:.....Buy a ZX or 405 1.9TD auto......
Minor, teeny-tiny itty-bitty teensy-weensy little problem with that:

Neither car existed.

To my knowledge, the 1.9TD never came from factory with an autobox. The 405 was never even available as a diesel auto, and I think the ZX diesel auto sold about 2 examples.

What you could do instead is grab the auto-box from a 2.1TD XM, and fit it to a 17/19 TD engine in a BX. Given the reduction in power that it would be handling (drop from 110 to 88/92 hp) it's weaknesses will probably become irrelevant.

Or leave the XUD11 engine from the XM on it, and have a 2.1TD 110hp TD auto BX. That would move rather well... almost as well as the GTI auto.
I can't speak for certain on the 405, because I don't know alot about them. But the ZX TD Auto was definately a factory car. It came in Avantage, Aura and Volcane specs.
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I think the last appearance of the 1905cc TD engine was in the Xantia Auto - after the HDi's had appeared.

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Hhmm. Never seen a factory 19TD auto, although I've heard mention of them before...

Is this another 19TD BX conspiracy??

Ian, I'll be in touch mate.
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Interesting because I thought there had been a recent thread where people said Citroen never made a 1.9TD auto?
As it would appear that they now did can't the ZX TD box be used in a BX to make a 1.9TD? Could be useful to Ian if it could I'd imagine.
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