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Roverman wrote:Cant remember saying it was slow, but with the BHP output being around the same and the petrol engine being made of alloy it would be lighter so may be a wee bit quicker? The 14E Leader MK1 I had qas surprisngly sprightly!
No, no, no.

The 1124 suitcase develops 50 bhp and (more importantly) 62 ft lbs of torque. The superb 17D with 60bhp and 82 ft lbs of torque would, in the modern parlance, piss all over the 11 8)
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Did that engine go in the Visa too?
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Philip Chidlow wrote:Did that engine go in the Visa too?
Both did.
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cavmad wrote:The 1.7 n/a diesel was NOT slow, ask Vanny or his mate who had my old one.
Was! :lol: Very.
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Kitch wrote:
cavmad wrote:The 1.7 n/a diesel was NOT slow, ask Vanny or his mate who had my old one.
Was! :lol: Very.

I'll get Vanny on you if you carry on like that!
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jonathan_dyane wrote:
Roverman wrote:Cant remember saying it was slow, but with the BHP output being around the same and the petrol engine being made of alloy it would be lighter so may be a wee bit quicker? The 14E Leader MK1 I had qas surprisngly sprightly!
No, no, no.

The 1124 suitcase develops 50 bhp and (more importantly) 62 ft lbs of torque. The superb 17D with 60bhp and 82 ft lbs of torque would, in the modern parlance, piss all over the 11 8)
Yes yes yes! :wink: Relax!
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cavmad wrote:
Kitch wrote:
cavmad wrote:The 1.7 n/a diesel was NOT slow, ask Vanny or his mate who had my old one.
Was! :lol: Very.

I'll get Vanny on you if you carry on like that!
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Roverman wrote:
jonathan_dyane wrote:
Roverman wrote:Cant remember saying it was slow, but with the BHP output being around the same and the petrol engine being made of alloy it would be lighter so may be a wee bit quicker? The 14E Leader MK1 I had qas surprisngly sprightly!
No, no, no.

The 1124 suitcase develops 50 bhp and (more importantly) 62 ft lbs of torque. The superb 17D with 60bhp and 82 ft lbs of torque would, in the modern parlance, piss all over the 11 8)
Yes yes yes! :wink: Relax!
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Roverman wrote:
jonathan_dyane wrote:
Roverman wrote:Cant remember saying it was slow, but with the BHP output being around the same and the petrol engine being made of alloy it would be lighter so may be a wee bit quicker? The 14E Leader MK1 I had qas surprisngly sprightly!
No, no, no.

The 1124 suitcase develops 50 bhp and (more importantly) 62 ft lbs of torque. The superb 17D with 60bhp and 82 ft lbs of torque would, in the modern parlance, piss all over the 11 8)
Yes yes yes! :wink: Relax!
Not if the diesel weighs more (as I think it does) and has much taller gearing (as it would do) and has a shorter rev band (which it definately does). And then couple those very torque figures to that rev band....if the 11 has it's torque mid range and it's power higher up it's going to be on the boil for longer. If the diesel has it all at 2000rpms, it's all over at low revs (and therefore low speed).

I don't know the actual figures, but I do know it could be the slowest race ever performed :lol:
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I suspect the diesel would have it's torque over most of the rev range, and be a much nicer car to drive. My money would be on the diesel to win that race. The 11 might pull ahead at the very beginning, but the 17D would pull ahead from 2nd gear onwards.

.. and It would indeed be a very slow race. Possibly faster than the race that a friend and I had from a set of lights on a dual carriageway in Portsmouth many years ago.

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Given that the Visa Diesel was an order of magnitude faster than the Visa 11 (same engines) I have no reason to believe the same would not be true of the slower BX's.

All we need to do is find two suitable cars and have a burn out :lol:
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jonathan_dyane wrote:Given that the Visa Diesel was an order of magnitude faster than the Visa 11 (same engines) I have no reason to believe the same would not be true of the slower BX's.
Now that I think about it, the same was true in the Horizon shell. The 65HP 1905cc XUD was a remarkably faster car than the 64HP 1294cc pushrod engine of rattlyness. It also did 450 miles on its (tiny) tank rather than 300. That was of course back when Diesel fuel was a few pence a litre cheaper than Petrol. What happened there then?
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