bx 16 TGS Meteor Auto wont start for some time

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bx 16 TGS Meteor Auto wont start for some time

Post by cacaolat » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:50 pm

The same thing happend to me a couple of weeks ago. (a rare day with snow) I start the car and accidentally let the engine die after 30 seconds or so. After that the engine wont start. Last time I have tried for about 15 minutes until the battery became weak. I did not do anything but the next day it started fine again. My first thought was that too much petrol went into the engine ? since then the starter motor had an additional strange sound ? or is it the aternator ?
the same thing has just happened again. :?
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Post by ellevie » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:56 pm

Next time it won't start, check that the spark is still there.

An easy way to do that is to tune the radio to the medium wave band so that is not on any station and you should be able to hear the spark with the volume turned up. Or you can do the same thing with a transistor portable radio placed in the passenger footwell. Check what it sounds like when the car is working so that you will know the difference.
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Post by cacaolat » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:05 pm

Thank you, that seems an interesting way of checking for a spark...I will try it tomorrow morning :arrow:
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Post by tim leech » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:06 pm

My 16TZS was the same matey, autocoke isnt working right and its overfuelling and the car getting flooded. When you start them from cold DONT touch the throttle, once they have been started and you come to start it again before its fully warm you will need to keep you foot fully depressed until it goes.

Sounds like the carb needs setting up to me.

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Post by cacaolat » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:27 pm

yes I realised that...autochoke is crap on that car....it really drives badly the first few minutes...
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Post by mnde » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:55 am

Mine is exactly the same. It runs rough at cold startup and I have to use accelerator assistance to keep the engine running and it makes a pulsing noise like thrum - thrum - thrum - thrum... and eventually settles down. Once on the move, it's very easy to stall when approaching roundabouts/junctions because the revs fall below 600 tr/m. Only way to avoid all this hassle is to warm up the engine nicely before setting off.

But yeah, a couple of times I've stalled very soon after cold startup and the engine's been impossible to restart... (no foot on accelerator) until I tried depressing and holding the accelerator fully to open the de-flooding mechanism. I think it would benefit from new HT leads (already has new plugs, cap and rotor arm) before I point a further finger at the autochoke - the operation of which I improved greatly a few months ago. Also it doesn't help that the HP pump is in almost constant operation which drags the idle revs down slightly (needs a new accumulator and probably a ballvalve re-seat).

My old Meteor was worse when it started exhibiting headgasket problems. The only way to restart after a very short journey was to jam a screwdriver down the throat of the carb to keep the strangler flap open and then try. Before I found out that I once got stranded with a flat battery with four friends in the car.....

Good luck with yours!

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Post by tim leech » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:10 am

What he says!

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Post by cacaolat » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:43 pm

I tried to listen for a spark, the sound of the radio changed completely, but it did not sound like a spark.
The problem is exactly like Mark says. It has only happened twice until now but at the next servicing I will try to get them to look at it. meanwhile I check out the Haynes manual and try to find out what HT leads are....(sorry only know the very basics when it comes to cars)

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Post by tim leech » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:48 pm

I would get some new spark plug leads, ditributor cap, and spark plugs and get them fitted as it wont hurt.

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Post by Doz » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:16 pm

My 16TXS was (is?) the same .... see the Miles per gallon thread... I'll post something there I found on an Aussie site earlier, there's lots to do and check...
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Post by mnde » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:37 pm

Yes please mate! :D

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Post by Doz » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:42 pm

Posted on the Miles per gallon thread

http://www.bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic ... 6&start=60

Looks like a weekends work .....

... does this get me out of painting the hallway ????
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Post by mnde » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:15 pm

:lol:

That gives me some more things to look at - thanks!

In return here is a collection of some old posts on autochoke problems:

http://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1366
http://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1478
http://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3977
http://bxclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4276

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Post by cacaolat » Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:47 pm

by the way, my engine also cuts out sometimes...for a second only, but rather annoying, could this be related
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Post by roscoe » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:38 am

I love diesels :D :D no autochoke, ignition systems, etc - they just go :D
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