Veg Conversion BX's

[docchevron]

Thats very true, I've been past several cars lately that smell like Ho-Sins take away!

I actually quite like the smell of diesel, toxic or not! Sadistic see...

We were running buses on Rape seed oil back in the mid ninties, I have to say I thought they smelt lovely! Although the engine life dropped DRAMATICALLY!

and yeah, running a Lucas pump on veg oil is doomed, Bosch every time!


(Oh, and SORRY Billy, but the Calibra was a cavalier in a shell suit!)

[Kitch]

You've really gotta drop this hate of the Xantia Doc

Never gona happen mate. EVER!

Ever changed a pull clutch in a D12 Xanty?? No, well, I assure it's the wan%est job ever in the history of wan% jobs.

Yes, the headlamps are a similar shape to the XM, but so is the whole car! Look at the swage line over the rear of the car, the front wings from the side, the whole thing is a scaled down blurred edged XM.

The XM is an incredible car to drive, the last "proper" Citroën IMO.
The Xantia replaced the BX, the BX may be made of sellotape and not as refined as a Xantia, but the BX IS a drivers car, as is the XM, the Xantia is a computer designed cop-out to the masses for blandness and "conformity".

I have nothing against anyone liking Xanty's, fair play to you! But I'd rather power sand my own ar$e than have one.
The only Xantia worth considering is the V6 or the Activa.
Yeah sure, they'll get from A to B, and may be more "interesting" than the competition at the time, but I dont want a car to get me from A to B with nil fuss, I want a car I can "feel", a car that gives you feedback, a car that is rewarding to drive, that puts a smile on your face everytime you get in it. Every BX and XM I've had does that, the Xantia.....does not.

Wow, I'm starting to sound like Tom!!!
Anyway rant over.... Resume hostilities!

Well argued sir!

I wouldn't say the XM was the last true Citroen though....surely the C6 counts?
And the Activa? They were working on that system since the 60's. And Activa's rock....if you wind the boost out, you can pass BMW 325i's at 140mph.

And the look on their face is priceless.

[cavmad]

If the 1.7 n/a is a Bosch pump job then it's well worth a bid. The 1.7 n/a is a fantastic engine in my experience, ok it's not quick (though mine was as Vanny will testify) but uncomplicated and mega reliable.
Doc, the Calibra was a tarted up Cavalier I agree but to me that's also one of it's plus points. Simple, reliable mechanics, cheap and easy to service and parts are available everywhere.
If I had any money (and I haven't!) I'd be after that 1.7 n/a like a shot.

[Stewart (oily!)]

A friend converted a van a few years ago, heated lines, second tank, electric changeover, he used to get all of his oil from the chinese, wow follow the van for a while and you got hungry, it smelt delicious, veg oil tends to vary between popcorn and acrid depending on concentration, done two Xanty pull clutches this week doc, normal pain not really different from the BX, slightly less hydraulic gubbins to deal with.
Stewart

[MULLEY]

Can u run a bit of veg oil on a lucas pump say for example upto 10% of volume ok? or does it damage it anyway?

[jeremy]

The seals in the Roto-Diesel pump are not considered by the manufacturers to be proof against veg oil. I think you will find if you search both here and elsewhere that the destruction is far from instant - and I think you can buy compatible seals but of course some dismantling of the pump will be required to fit them - and diesel pumps are fine bits of engineering and while eminently repairable they are not tolerant of dirt and so their repair is probably best left to experts.

[Bxaholic]

[/quote]And Activa's rock....if you wind the boost out, you can pass BMW 325i's at 140mph.

And the look on their face is priceless. [/quote]


I've had BX's for years and currently have three, but I have a BMW 530d as well, and I find the constant bullshit about BMW's on this forum very tedious and laughable at times, and I cant honestly see the point, therefore after being a member on here since last November I conclude anyone with anything BMW is not welcomed here, cheerio folks.
BTW.... new 325i 150+mph {jeez i'm off cause i'm starting to be childish now}

[docchevron]

Dude, me thinks a chill pill is required here.

I cant say I've noticed any BMW bashing on here, well no more than any other car including BX's.

I'd love to have a 635CSi, and my dad had a 525a in peppermint green, HRD 200N, where are you now??, I loved it, I thought it was great, it went like the wind, didn't stop too well, but it sounded awesome, was vay comfortable and just looked the absolute b*!!ocks! I even loved the colour!

I really dont think Kitch was having a dig mate, Surely it could be considered a compliment to own a marque of car that is used as a comparison in speed for a tweaked Cit??

People take the pi$$ out of me all the time for owning a coach and spending most of my spare time fixing old buses, but I take it as it's meant, in jest, it aint a cause to throw your toys out of the pram.

Billy, I agree mate, the cally is a nice car, not for me as such, but a nice car non the less, my mate in work has a red top, it goes much faster than you think it should be capable, but it does! and it sounds nice when it comes up on the cams, and IMO it's a cleaner looking car than the cav's of the same era, although I do have a bit of a soft spot for early cav's, I really wana have a go in yours! (hint....)

Kitch, I did say the only Xanty's worth considering were the V6 and the Activa, although I still reckon a BX with Activa would be much more a "drivers" car than the xantia is

I kinda agree about the C6, although I've only driven one, and that was a very short distance, and I wasn't hugely impressed by the V6TD, that engine seems to work better in the jag IMO.. The ride is great no doubt, but I've not been sucked in just yet...

Edit: Actually I know where HRD 200N is now, in the great scarp yard in the sky! Memory aint what it was! Although the twin servo's live on, in my ambulance!!!

[Bxaholic]

Fair comment, but I wasn't taking it personal nor was I thinking of it in terms of BMW bashing, maybe I dont understand the situation nationally regarding BMW drivers, but I certainly haven't seen any problems with them this part of the world, infact recent incidents i've seen have been with 3 Vauxhall drivers which included one of them overtaking four cars on the inside through a long layby but that didn't make me tarnish all Vauxhall drivers with the same brush, my dad has one!
Its just when I see on here things like 'BMW bashing' or 'BMW baiting', I just shake my head and wonder why do people do things like that, I thought them were the actions of chavy drivers of Corsas, Saxo, Fiestas etc, when I get to drive my BMW and its not often as the wife is with it, all the cars of world can overtake if they want, I dont suddenly think,' right cant be having a 1.3 Escort passing me'
BTW.... i've actually lived in a coach for three years, it was a Bedford, god knows which one, but the one with twin wheels on the front.
Right off to take my chill pill

[Philip Chidlow]

Nowt wrong with owning any make of car. Just so long as you have a BX or three in your collection! I think BMWs do get stick generally, but my bugbears are 4 x 4's - which include X5's and X3's of course - but not because of what company makes them - it's (except those with a decent excuse, like farmers) the (general) mentality of the people who drive 'em. You wouldn't - well maybe you would - believe the ludicrous procession of new or nearly new 4x4 monsters rolling up the road, all turning off into the local private school to drop 'little Emma' off. I honestly think they'd drive £150,000 3.5 tonne 9mpg 6 x 6's if they thought it'd elevate them one notch on the Mummy-bus rankings

[Bxaholic]

- believe the ludicrous procession of new or nearly new 4x4 monsters rolling up the road, all turning off into the local private school to drop 'little Emma' off. I honestly think they'd drive £150,000 3.5 tonne 9mpg 6 x 6's if they thought it'd elevate them one notch on the Mummy-bus rankings

That seems to be the pattern throughout the country now, a lot of people have become very lazy, there are two women who work in the office at our place, both live 4 furlongs away from the office and they take their Discovery and VW Touran to work everyday, unbeliveable.

[docchevron]

Ah yeah, well of course the mindset is that Chelsea Tractors are the safest way to get "little Emma" to school in supreme safety, even though we all know 4x4's are inherentley less stable at speed and just as prone to causing death than other form of mechanised transport.

Most of these mothers of course are the very same people that bemoan about global warming and how awful it is that when "little Emma" grows up, England will be a baren wasteland. Seriousley, go and stand near school gates near "kicking out" time and listen to the drivel these bints come out with, directley before leaping into their "gas guzzler's" with the air-con on "because "little Emma" cant have the windows open because of all the nasty car fumes.....

[Philip Chidlow]

How'd they like it if I turned up in...

[Stewart (oily!)]

I successfully ran my old GTI TD BX on up to 85% vegoil a few years ago without incident, mind you the pump may have had work before the car came to me and the seals could have been replaced with synthetic ones (lucas pump) I dont bash BMWs though I have been known to prefer their bikes to their cars I sometimes like to irritater Audi/VW drivers though
Stewart

[docchevron]

How'd they like it if I turned up in...

DO IT MAN!! I wants me one of them!


A Lucas pump will run for a while on veg even without modded seals, it's just in the hands of the gods how long they'll last before leaking like a, er, leaky thing!