TZD Clutch Issues

Ian_Fearn · Post by **Ian_Fearn** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:34 pm

The cable came from AEP direct with the clutch. I compared them and couldn't see any difference between the 2.

The more i talk it through with people the more i think i've got a dodgy clutch.

I had a similar problem with a 2cv i owned a few years back, again a Valeo clutch. The next owner changed the clutch and problem solved.

Cant believe i've got to do this all over again. I think i'm gonna have to live with it till xmas now. No time

Way2go · Post by **Way2go** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:05 pm

Maybe it'll be like the tailor used to say "it'll ride up with wear Sir" .

DavidRutherford · Post by **DavidRutherford** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:31 pm

Ian_Fearn wrote:Cant believe i've got to do this all over again.

If it was a clutch bought from a motor factors, and you can prove it to be faulty, then you can legitimately claim the number of "book" hours to re-fit the clutch. You should also get a free replacement one.

Often what's been done with this in the past is that you pay for your new clutch and fit it. If that solves the problem then you claim back the cost of the clutch and the hours to change it.

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:55 pm

I'm inclined to think that it is a problem with the pressure plate and flywheel not being perfectly square in relation to each other. I wonder (although I think this is unlikely) if the release bearing is sitting correctly - if it is putting uneven pressure on the diaphragm then this could cause judder.
One thing to check if and when you take it out is the number of straps in each set that attach the pressure plate to the cover, and make sure they all have an equal number.
I used to work for a clutch manufacturer, and that was a fairly common reason for return under warranty. (Although the main cause was wrong bits in the box!) Incidentally they used to employ a guy whose job was soley to try and reject as many warranty returns as possible. Even down to the instruction from on high that he was to accept NO returns in a particular month! Which, to his credit he refused to do.

ken newbold · Post by **ken newbold** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:16 pm

Valeo clutches come with a 2 year warranty, 1st year is parts and labour. 2nd year is parts only.

Ian_Fearn · Post by **Ian_Fearn** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:45 pm

Mat, can you explain how the release bearing might not be seated correctly?? I wonder if theres anything in it. I've fitted a few clutchs but never one with this style of clip on bearing before.

I'm not bothered about the money, i'll never get my time back!

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:21 pm

I think it is unlikely, as the only way I can see it happening is if the clip was damaged which would be easily noticeable. The bearing should self centre itself to some extent if it is clipped on correctly.
We did get quite a few broken clips back under warranty, both from breakage in the box and from fitting damage though!

Ian_Fearn · Post by **Ian_Fearn** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:55 pm

Thanks Mat, like you say though i think its unlikely....

I need some time now to get the box back out. The weathers not doing me any favours at the moment and running that V8 Range Rover everyday isnt very appealling financially!

jeremy · Post by **jeremy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:46 pm

Is there anything appealing about a V8 Range Rover? - if so what?
(Sorry - they've always seemed to be one of the most pointless things ever made to me - would I ever spend £40,000 and drive cross country - or if I want to drive fast on the road - buy a proper car rather than what amounts to an overweight blamanche)

DavidRutherford · Post by **DavidRutherford** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:25 pm

jeremy wrote:Is there anything appealing about a V8 Range Rover?

Yep. Lots. If used as they were designed they are just about the most useful vehicle of evAr.

Post by **mat_fenwick** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:23 pm

OK, I know we are going off topic, and this isn't even a Range Rover (but it is underneath), but just to prove that 4x4s DO have their uses...this is me pulling a (lightly laden) 7.5 ton recovery truck out of the mud.

It's hugely useful for towing as well, feel very stable even towing a 3 ton trailer. OK, I'll stop being all defensive now, and agree that probably the vast majority of the newer 4x4s aren't used in anger. More (IMO) for a perceived feeling of safety and pose value.
By the way, mine (and I'm sure Ian's as well) cost rather less than £40,000!

Ian_Fearn · Post by **Ian_Fearn** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:47 am

Mine is slow and spartan, will pull a house down and carries serious amounts of weight! Its great....

jeremy · Post by **jeremy** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 8:01 pm

Must be better than any of the ones I've ever driven!

jonathan_dyane · Post by **jonathan_dyane** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:26 pm

If it helps, when I changed the clutch on my diesel 205 just before I sold it, I was pretty pissed off to discover that it was juddering (cheap crapo euro car parts 35 quid clutch). After a couple of hundred miles however it was fine...

Incidentally the knackered clutch I removed had a bizarre spring loaded segment in the centre of the clutch plate which had broken up to the extent that not only was there ridiculous clutch snatch, but also a nasty vibration at high speeds, caused I guess by the ability for the clutch plate to end up parked in an off-centre location.