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Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:16 pm
by Kitch
Matt H wrote:Erm, might have to come down in my new Alfa, can I still dyno it ;) ?
You could, but the BX would be much more fun! I've dyno'd 4-pot 156s before.....it's pretty eventless :lol:

Don't be a pansy! Bring the 16v! :lol:

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:17 pm
by Kitch
Vanny wrote:I was hoping to put some miles on the car to make sure i'm not loosing coolant any more. Havent managed any miles, but have managed a good hour on tick over, and she's holding coolant pressure over three days so i'm confident enough that i'm going to head down on the saturday morning. If i dont arrive on a flat bed then she can try her hand on the rollers!

I would really really like to have a go at sorting the suspension out on the 4 post if this is still possible?

And i'll be bringing the lady with me.
Yes mate I'll make sure the ramp is free. If it dies on the way down at least I've got some spares wrapped up in a rusty grey BX here!

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:32 pm
by RobC
Me too for the ramp please! I need to (finally) reattach my rear anti roll bar...

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:34 pm
by Kitch
Is that a wheels-off job? Because the 4-poster doesn't have jacks.

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:53 pm
by RobC
Hopefully not - it's wheels off if you do it jacked up on the ground one side at a time, but i reckon if you can get underneath it will be fine.

Thanks dude! :D

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:58 pm
by Kitch
No problem, sounds like the 4-poster is ok then. The two-poster will be an arsehole to clear if it's raining or anything, as most of the cars at the workshop aren't waterproof! That's why I need prior notice.

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:18 pm
by Vanny
Excessive preparation?

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Stock ecu that came with the cars harness, brand spanking new ECU and a superchip ECU!

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:51 pm
by Kitch
Vanny wrote:Excessive preparation?

Image

Stock ecu that came with the cars harness, brand spanking new ECU and a superchip ECU!
Haha! No mate, that's the name of the game. I can overlay graphs from different runs, so you can have a printout with all three.

So far I've found the standard ones are the best, though that's only on my red 16v, and that in turn is the only 16v I've put on there that's ever got near quoted figures.

Sadly I can't plot the AFR on the graph yet as the gadget that reads it won't talk to the dyno system, but we can watch it live and note where there are any issues.

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:57 pm
by Caffiend
Seems that things I'm s'posed to be organising go better when I don't :lol:

This week is shaping up interesting* - depending on how a meeting goes on Friday, dunno whether I will make this or not, hope to see everyone and if it's OK Kitch, will just take pot luck as to whether there's a dyno slot free as I don't want to sign up then not be able to go and prevent someone else's car being revved. Will be good to catch up with people whatever :)

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:11 pm
by Vanny
Kitch wrote:Sadly I can't plot the AFR on the graph yet as the gadget that reads it won't talk to the dyno system.
Oh, i wouldn't be so sure! Name that gadget, and i'll bring a logger. We can add the data onto the dyno graph later, not pretty, but it would work!

Actually, that makes me wonder, could the Solomat come back into action . . . .

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:49 pm
by Kitch
Caffiend wrote:Seems that things I'm s'posed to be organising go better when I don't :lol:

This week is shaping up interesting* - depending on how a meeting goes on Friday, dunno whether I will make this or not, hope to see everyone and if it's OK Kitch, will just take pot luck as to whether there's a dyno slot free as I don't want to sign up then not be able to go and prevent someone else's car being revved. Will be good to catch up with people whatever :)
Yeah no problem i'll make sure you get a slot if you can make it!

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:51 pm
by Kitch
Vanny wrote:
Kitch wrote:Sadly I can't plot the AFR on the graph yet as the gadget that reads it won't talk to the dyno system.
Oh, i wouldn't be so sure! Name that gadget, and i'll bring a logger. We can add the data onto the dyno graph later, not pretty, but it would work!

Actually, that makes me wonder, could the Solomat come back into action . . . .
The afr reader is an Innovate unit. Handheld jobbie that does obd etc

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:57 pm
by Vanny
if its this one

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

its already got a logger in it!

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:35 pm
by Kitch
Vanny wrote:if its this one

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

its already got a logger in it!
That's the one, but I'm pretty sure we found it wouldn't talk to the dyno computer. Says it does on the gumph there though. I think another attempt is in order!

Could be that we need another lead.

Re: Southern Rolling Road & Tech Day - end Feb/beg. Mar

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:35 pm
by Vanny
So, is this the final line up then;
  • Hilary BX 16V (I have a modded ECU I can bring along too, would be good to see what effect if any it has on performance...)
  • Tom BX TXD Turbo (GT won't be ready by 2nd March)
  • Matt H BX 16v (The white one) or Alfa?
  • Mike S Timex (should be good for a laugh if nothing else - I'll be overjoyed if it makes more than 50BHP!)
  • Jaba BX TD estate
  • RobC 16v?
  • Vanny Pink Valver
Seems like a good spread really, shame there aren't more petrols (a nice 1.4 would be good), but all in all a good range!

Personally i'll be happy with anything over 140bhp, it's always felt a tad low on power, and i'm pretty sure that one of the cylinders is down on compression.


Actually, i bet there is a compression tester down at Southways right ;)