BX Auto at Horopito Motors

[kiwi]

Found the BX Auto that I was informed was at Horopito. Was after some parts but have been informed that the whole car is for sale. Registration on Hold since 2006 it looked like? Apparently has a WOF and is stored outside in all the elements. TBH looks like a bit of work to get it on the road again and certainly not worth the $1500 they want for it.
Shame really.

[CaM]

they've become a bit of a pack of rogues. For that thing WOF'd I'd be lucky to give them a grand for it. Always figured it'd be good to wreck, though.A friend of the family some years ago wanted to buy a then mint mark2 zephyr off them, and they wouldn't sell it, citing it as 'being worth big bucks in a few years'. Well, A few years on, it's absolutely buggered from sitting out there. Idiots.

my 1991 1.4TE is off to the tip next week i'm thinking, in case you want anything.
Bloody rusty UK imports
Even bulkier parts I'm likely able to get to you without shipping cost as I think my old man's heading your way next week.

[pindimar]

From what you NZers are saying it would seem that BXs are very rare over there in NZ. I was wondering how often diesels would come up for sale. Any ideas on that?

After all, The Pond isn't that big!

GregF

[CaM]

they're not really that rare.
there's a few diesel over here. one for sale on www.trademe.co.nz at the moment with slight frontal damage. thinking of buying it

[kiwi]

I was tempted by that diesel as well CaM. Having the spare parts to hand to fix it up would not be to hard. As long as it is just external cosmetic and a Rad?

Weighing up the pros and cons ie mileage v cost to run in NZ the petrol makes more sense. Ok so you feel warm and fuzzy not going to the service station very often but weigh in the RUCs and the higher Rego fee.... kind of kills that a bit

pindimar BXs are not that rare in NZ just depends where you live. A couple of years ago my TZS was lonely in the area I live, now there is 4 others in the immediate area (50km). One at Horopito none runner, my second BX and two others.

Its hard to say how often a BX comes up for sale let alone a Diesel because of the value of them nowdays. Kiwis have a tendancy of owning a car until it breaks then getting rid of them.

[CaM]

yeah i'm thinking of going and having a look at it. apparently a guy i know that's into bx's knows the guy....
I've got all the bits to repair it aside form a bumper I reckon. weridly enough i grabbed the rad out of a turbo diesel bx that was at a wreckers a while back and it's mint. they're a different radiator to petrol bx's so aren't easy to get.

diesel are good if you're doing the mileage. I don't so i can't really justify it but if i could get it for cheap enough........

[pindimar]

BXs are pretty rare here but diesels were not imported at all, so the only diesels here have been privately imported.

Funny, as the Peugeot 405 diesel WAS imported and sold quite well, at least in country areas. The Xantia was not imported in diesel form either and it wasn't until the C5 & C4 that Citroen picked up on diesel sales here. The motoring press and the car companies have tried to downplay the advantages of diesel - obviously for their own reasons. The Japanese manufacturers don't have diesel cars much at all, which may be part of it.

But VW/Audi and Mercedes and Peugeot have been doing well with diesels and gradually the others are picking diesel up. Citroen seems to be doing quite a bit if diesel sales now. In fact, diesel is trendy with European manufacturers but it has taken a very long time for it to make the impact that it has obviously had in UK/Europe for ever.

But a really good BX diesel manual wagon could sail the Tasman!

GregF[/i]

[pindimar]

front-end shunt, but $700

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 860102.htm

GregF

[CaM]

^ thinking of going to see that but i'm frightened of the km. plus diesel quality over here is horrific at the moment.

[pindimar]

the quality of diesel here used to be quite bad apparently but they upped the standards that they have to sell to, and no problem now??? - so is that the case in NZ??

Are the truckers kicking up a stink?

Greg

[CaM]

it works fine with lower tech systems from what i can gather. no pump failures and things like that, but it smells like burning oil rather than diesel these days. commonrail engien have frequent problems on it. to be honest, nobody really kicks up a stink til something goes wrong. we mine some of the best quality petrochemicals in the world off of our coast but none of it gets used here as the oil companies would rather sell a shit russian product for a premium price. i'm sure the bx system would go fine on it but yeah. kinda scared to buy that one with 300k on it, (v. high mileage for nz really) and have a fuel pump fail, they're not an easy part to service or get replacements for over here...... still, might go have a look. have tried ringing the guy a couple of times.

[pindimar]

So worth a look. $700 is maybe a little on the high side given the damage so could be quite negotiable! Wouldn't have a clue where the diesel they sell here is refined??

From Russia without much love, eh?

[kiwi]

Sarcasm there CaM about Russian fuel supplies

pindimar, Two sources of rfined fuel in New Zealand. The bulk comes from Singapore and the remainder from Western Australia. Same place you ockers get it from Differance is theres a certain differance in refining process.

The so called emergency 90 day supply that all countries are supposed to have would you believe the majority of it is stored in Brisbane

With regards to diesel there was a problem with the new additives back in 2003, it kind of went unnoticed unlike the fiasco of the introduction of unleaded back in 1996. Both times the bad fuels came crom Singapore hence the Russian comments I believe?

One thing CaM to take note is that the COF/WOF standards regarding the emission of Smoke form the exhaust in diesels is being clamped down on harder now. Car that age mileage you may be looking at replaceing the fuel injectors to get it through the next WOF.

[CaM]

about time too. there's no reason a diesel should be horrifically smokey even here. 50% of this is down to diesel quality, the other 50% is down to people being too tight to fix their jap imports
see the new euro 5 trucks even billow smoke. it sucks. maybe the refinery needs to up it's game.

wof testing for diesel smoke is rather subjective too it seems. giving a turbo diesel a bit of welly when static is unfair. they usually smoke most when being revved statically, or not at all, but will do the opposite under proper loading. weird.

[kiwi]

NZFS is having difficulty getting some of its older trucks through the new COF standards on emissions. These trucks well maintained and low mileage just getting on in years. Our local Council who is responsible for the Rural Fire Force recently purchased a 1978 Comma ex NZFS with 49k on the clock and well its not doing to well at its inspection. Kind of be better to park it at Horopito or send it to Africa

So I would put that down to the fuel quality rather than the maintainance of the Trucks but you are right a lot of the problems stem from poor maintaince and tight fisted ness. Not all though!

Take the Nisssan Pajero 4wd (older version) follow one of them you know when they change gear and put a hill in the way you cant see them for the black cloud.

One the reasons I dont live in a city is because of that diesel smoke issues. First words my wife said driving away from Auckaland Airport is "I dont want to live in Auckland, to much smokey diesels"

Needless to say I had a diesel van until the head blew on it thats when I realised for the style of driving we have that diesel was uneconmical to own. It has got worse since then so unless youre doing the miles it is not worth owning one.