Market value of a 16Valve BX?

[peterwight]

What is a reasonable price of a '92 phase 2 BX16Valve? Has anybody bought or sold one recently, and are you willing to confide the cost? If you've seen my advert in the For Sale or Wanted section, you'll know I'm looking for a replacement front bumper following a scrape with a bus. I'm hoping Stagecoach will pay up, but the new-for-old cost of the damaged parts (bumper, tyre and wing mirror) is undeniably greater than the market value of the entire car.
But how much greater? I expect they'll suggest a pitifully low figure, so I could do with some evidence that 16V fans are keeping the price up. All comments welcome. Thanks in advance. Regards, Peter

[MULLEY]

£750-£1250 depending upon condition, mileage etc...main thing seems to be how many people are after any given car at anytime. Sometimes prices surge, othertimes you may struggle.

If you like your car & you know you'd never get another one for similar money, i wouldnt worry about how much the repairs are going to cost if someone else is going to stump up the cost let them pay.

You weren't at fault, so its upto to the other insurers to put your car back in the position that it was in. Other club members may have more experience in claims etc... of this type of nature & can perhaps offer some practicle advice on what to do & what not to do. Don't let them write off your car.

I personally haven't seen any absolute mint valvers for sale in ages, they all seem to be poor to ok, so you're probably the best guage as to value. I think in the last couple of years the best price i saw was £1500. They are going up in value though, just look at the prices of the other lesser models over the last year.

Alternatively, see how much all the parts are (should be quite cheap tbh), factor in someone sorting out the paintwork & fitting it & then give stagecoach a much less amount that they'll probably be happy to stump up, rather than getting your car fixed the traditional route of through an insurer via an official dealer etc...who will load up the costs bigstylee with expensive labour rates & cost parts. I can imagine citroen wanting a fortune to sort your car out, but the other method will be miles cheaper.

All the best with getting it sorted, hopefully you'll save the car & it can be repaired to be enjoyed once again, keep us all informed of how you get on.

[scarecrow]

When a truck hit my Meteor I was offered the price I'd paid for the car as it was less than the repair quote. I was allowed to keep the car. I don't know if it was written off as I disappeared to Spain as soon as the cheque arrived , and just carried on using it for another 6 years when I came back.

[Philip Chidlow]

In my view a valver in need of some work will be around the 400-450 mark: The white phase 1 I bought in 2007 was £380 - and that had T&T but the Phase 2 was £800. In the end I sold the Phase 2 for £1350. But I had spent that much on it! Do'oh

[Matt H]

Price (excellent): £1700
Price (good): £1000
Price (average): £650
Price (project): £400

I'd say clean it up... and go for a grand. These prices are from the 2010 Classic Car price guide that I helped put together. It's not actually on the shelves yet, but should be in the next few days.

If you can get hold of a copy it might help you convince them it isn't a lost cause.

[toddao]

That's a fine price guide there. Is it the first time the BX 16v has made it in? It also assures me that mine was obtained in the 'project' range! Which is what it is - slowly, but very enjoyably coming together.
Where does your fine example come in that range Matt?

[Mike P]

2 years ago, I sold a 55K mile F reg Phase 1 for £1500.

Combination of the car being in excellent condition and a buyer who knew what he was looking for

This is probably a record for 16V's in recent times, I'd agree with Matt's menu of prices above.

Mike P.

[peterwight]

Thank you everybody for replies to my question, both in quality and quantity. I know from experience that insurers will offer what they think you'd need to buy another car of the same type if the repair cost is bigger. They then regard your car as a write-off which they now own. You can then buy it back for its scrap value (eg £30).
Citroen tell me a bumper would cost about £850, but it is no longer available. With a new tyre and wing mirror I'll ask for £960.
Thanks too for the advice to clean it. I shall be out there with the polish very soon. But chiefly I'm grateful for the knowledge that it's in the Classic Car price guide. I'll seek a copy urgently. Yours, Peter

[MULLEY]

£850 for a bit of plastic It's a good job its out of stock. Just get hold of a 2nd hand one thats in good nick & get someone to paint it, that'll be quite a bit cheaper.

[Mike E (uk)]

If you still have all the parts, the bumpers are repairable.

They are fibreglass so they can be fixed on the inside like a boat, the outside filled and resprayed.

The brackets are normally rusted away on a rear bumper, but these can be replaced with a grp block.

I would do it myself, and pay a paintshop to spray it top coat.

Or, if you prefer, I will sell you a brand new front bumper for £850, and I'll throw in a free wing mirror.

The bumper is in primer, so you still need to paint it.

Mike

[toddao]

Mike P wrote

2 years ago, I sold a 55K mile F reg Phase 1 for £1500.

Combination of the car being in excellent condition and a buyer who knew what he was looking for

This is probably a record for 16V's in recent times, I'd agree with Matt's menu of prices above.

Perhaps they sometimes go for more on The Continent? Some of the prices in France seem high - who knows whether they actually sell them? I saw a low mileage very tidy Swiss ph.2 16v with working a/c bought by a German Citroen garage on the border here and sold to a Dutchman for almost €4000 two years ago.

[NZ16v]

got mine insured for $10,000NZD, it owes me much more than that. Insurance company had no problem with that. It does have new rebuilt engine, new paint, new wheels and tyres etc etc!!!!

[Way2go]

got mine insured for $10,000NZD, it owes me much more than that. Insurance company had no problem with that.

Is that payout guaranteed by the NZ insurance company on a total loss occurring?

Over here there is no problem insuring BX's for high values but payouts will be limited to an assessors verdict or for what you can prove is the current market value if you contest this. So insuring for more than market value probably means just paying a higher premium for no extra benefit.